The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:24 pm

At the GNRS today. A lot of nice bikes.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Mk3 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:58 am

I'm not much for doting, but I freakin love that hack. It looks like the archetypal rocket bike from every under-budget 60s/70s futuristic cartoon and I can't get enough of it. A rare and perfect synergy of form and function. It's like Speed Racer and Akira had a furry party with Wile E. Coyote and the Jetsons while Race Bannon filmed it for posterity.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:03 am

Thanks Mk3. Its drawn a lot of attention at the show as well. Quite a few want to see what its like to sit in. Including those a bit short and wide. The little kids are the funniest.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:18 pm

The GNRS was a nice break at a time when things are quiet. As I'm sure you know its not called the Roadster show because there are a lot of bikes there. There wer a few good ones though.

I don't know a thing about this Triumph except it looks like a 60s / 70s drag bike refugee. Interesting though.

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This is the McLeish Bros. streamliner sidecar. Its has many different engines in it. But I got a surprise when I saw a brand new Indian engine in there. It ran at the Nov. El Mirage meet and ran 175+

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Tom Foley's vintage 130 mph 1955 Panhead sidecar.

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A Harley I have never seen before. No doubt its fast.

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Tom Evans' Shovel. It hasn't been out for a while but a nice machine.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:37 pm

From a different angle.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Jaeger » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:48 am

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:46 pm

^^^^ She was a bit on the short side. But enthusiastic.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby guitargeek » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:08 pm

I'd say that your bike fits right in!
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Sun May 22, 2016 9:41 pm

There hasn't been a lot to write about for the past while. Waiting for El Mirage to start up and wondering if Bonneville will be on this year. Not holding mu breath on that one. I got out to El Mirage last weekend for the first attempt at running the sidecar with the blower. To make a long story short it was a steep learning curve. Major lean out and piston destruction. I haven't fully determined the cause but its (A) I didn't fatten it up enough or (B) the blower was sucking the fuel out of the bowl faster than it could get in.

It started easy, left the line hard and I was revving it out in third (around 7000) and there was a loud bang , rattle and get the clutch in as fast as I could.

Pulled the head and cylinder when I got home. Expecting the worst I was surprised with what I found. Over the years I have holed pistons, seized them, broke them but never have I "melted" one. First photo is what I saw when I lifted the head. The others are pretty much self explanatory. What surprised me is the head looks good. Only a couple of nicks that will clean up easily. The cylinder hasn't any gouges or scratches. Just a bit of aluminum on the wall that is no problem. Even the big end feels good. I haven't split the cases yet. I'll do that in a couple of days and see what lurks in there.


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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Jaeger » Mon May 23, 2016 6:39 am

MELTED a piston?

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Mon May 23, 2016 6:10 pm

Kind of melted it and beat the shit out of it while I was at it.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Pintgudge » Mon May 23, 2016 7:22 pm

See, this is the extent that some dedicated artists will go to to create truly stunning modern art.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Tue May 24, 2016 11:06 am

If a job is worth doing its worth doing right. Anybody can seize a piston but it takes a supercharger to do it right.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Bigshankhank » Thu May 26, 2016 4:07 am

obiwancanopy wrote:If a job is worth doing its worth doing right. Anybody can seize a piston but it takes a supercharger to do it right.


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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Fri May 27, 2016 10:08 pm

Hopefully, that's a sufficient sacrifice for the rest of the year. Bonneville is a long way to go to make another sacrifice.

Zane McNary took this shot as I left the line last week. With a bit of luck he'll take a shot of the sidecar in the lights.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Mk3 » Sat May 28, 2016 7:43 pm

Naaaarf. Good picture, though the props of barely being caught on camera from last time were pretty sweet.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Bigshankhank » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:03 am

It's time for Humankind to ditch the imaginary friends of our species' childhood and grow the fuck up.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:38 pm

Yeah! I've been watching the reports closely. As have an awful lot of other people. A friend in the club who does the Bonneville entries say entries are down about 20%. I guess there are a lot of gun shy people after the last two years. All of the European racers I know are not willing to take the chance. And I can't say I blame them. Les Triplettes du Bonneville from France are coming. They'e the only ones I know of.I'm trying to get my shit together after a disasterous El Mirage. Leaned out bad and melted the piston. Got all the bits and am starting to get it back together. I'll be ready for the salt.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:49 pm

I'm sitting here Halloween night handing out candy. I went to Bonneville and had a rough time getting the carb right. Too rich or too lean. I think the problem boiled down to the carb not being able to let enough fuel in fast enough. I think the blower simply drew so hard the carb couldn't keep up. After dicking around I finally got it to a point where I thought it would make a decent run.

I had no idea a blower could make such a difference. It left harder than I could imagine. Pulled so hard through the gears. When I put in into fourth it pulled like it was in first gear. I started to think I'll need more gearing. At about 135 at the 1 3/4 mile mark the piston let go again. Too lean again. I should be depressed but it just flat pulled so hard I'm excited to get it back running. I do believe that with the right gearing 150 is a possiblity

Some friends said EFI is the only way to go. But I haven't a clue about EFI. I spent a couple of afternoons at Hilborn Fuel Injection. Long chats and a lot of details. Don Enriquez (he probavly knows more about fuel injection than Stu Hilborn ever did) put a set up together for me. It will get me in the ballpari and cure the lean out problem. I'm waiting for some parts from England and get to work on it.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Bigshankhank » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:10 am

There is just too much to like in this. Eager to hear the results of the F/I setup once it is dialed in.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby problemaddict » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:49 am

I feel like I've asked this question before, but is there any chance of getting that thing on a dyno for a tuning session? Or, at least get an EGT gauge so you can back off before the piston pops...
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:41 pm

I don't know of any dynos near me. The fuel injection will cure the lean out problem It will be a while before the next installment. I've been catching up on honey dos. Should be done soon. and I can get my head down.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Pintgudge » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:10 pm

What about sweety doo'es
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby 12ci » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:27 am

looks like there are a few near Riverside: http://www.dynojet.com/DynoCenters/dyno ... istance=25

edit to add: DYNOS. there appear to be dynos near you, in addition to the honey-do's and sweetie-do's...
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Bigshankhank » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:33 pm

Adding a bung for an EGT should be pretty simple, I never really thought about it as I am still pretty new to F/I (and have never tuned one) but it would probably yield really useful data.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:25 am

I just go an A/F ratio sensor which I'm told is a vital tool. Frying pistons and bending valves is not what I had in mind. I need to get off my lazy ass and start working. Been doing much needed stuff around the house.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby AZRider » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:51 pm

I'm friends with the local Dynojet guy in Connecticut. He may know the guys near you. I will try to ask him if he advises one in particular.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby obiwancanopy » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:55 pm

Kind of hard to believe its two years since this thread died, 2017 I went to the salt but got sick as a dog and didn't run. This year I had the blower off because of the above mentioned piston problems. Fried the piston again, A real pisser. I had blamed the blower and a lean mixture. Turned out it was a partial blockage in the oil pump. The pump was able to get enough oil in to keep the big end alive but not enough to lube the piston. That will be resolved for next year, The engine will be going as a spare.

I was talking to a guy on FB about Weslakes. He was telling me about a 647 cc Weslake he has. I asked how did you get a Weslake out that big without major surgery. He sent a bunch of photos. Wow! It can be done without moving the crankcase studs. I started to think I have a donor crankcase and a cylinder and made some plans. Fast forward a couple of weeks and I get a message from him to say he wants me to have the Weslake. Great! How much? He says no I want you to have it.!! Damn!!! this doesn't happen to me. It arrived a week ago or so. Its Beautiful!! Mahle Piston (big bugger 97.5 mm), Jawa rod, polished and lightened rocker arms.

I had thought that this year would be my last Bonneville but I hated the thought of ending Bonneville on a failure. With this engine I have no choice but to ho back. I'm now looking forward to it. In fact I think now that death would be the only acceptable reason for not going.

One minute I have two Weslake and suddenly I have five. And a Godden. The Weslake on the left is a genuine , unmolested Otto Lantenhammer Weslake. I bought it from Scott Autrey. Didn't need it or have any plans but I couldn't resist a genuine OL Weslake. The one on the right is the bones of a 350 that was given to me. And the Godden in the back I bought because it was dirt cheap. Missing some nuts and screws. The one in the foreground is the 647 cc beastie.

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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Jaeger » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:33 pm

obiwancanopy wrote:...

I had thought that this year would be my last Bonneville but I hated the thought of ending Bonneville on a failure. With this engine I have no choice but to go back. I'm now looking forward to it. In fact I think now that death would be the only acceptable reason for not going.
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Re: The Bonneville Report (of sorts)

Postby Mk3 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:02 pm

Ahhh.. my life is back in order, I've had my annual salt flats pron from obiwan.
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