red wrote:The first movies with Toby M, were "ok", only in the fact that they were the only Spider-Man movies.
Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were pretty good, I believe, and not just because there were no alternatives. Not even just because of the novelty value of seeing superheros with fully photorealistic effects.
They had their weaknesses, but overall, did a pretty good job of bringing Spider-Man's origins and conflicts across.
Most of it is pretty solid filmmaking. The choice of villains, well. Putting an actor like Willem Dafoe behind a full-face mask, that was... a choice
Other stuff. How Peter turns into Spidey, first encounters his powers, that fight scene in the school, or when he tries to control his web. Loved that.
That scene from Spider-Man 2, on the train?
Yes, pure, 100 proof pathos. But fuck, it works
I found the movies pretty engaging, entertaining, and satisfying. I had been reading Spider-Man comics for over a decade by the time that first film came out, was familiar with his various print-incarnations. I actually was angry they had changed the webs from something he had MacGuyvered himself to something his body made. Until I eventually figured out: Someone smart enough to develop a super-material like that web, capable enough to manufacture it by the ton and putting the launch-mechanism into something as small as a wristwatch... would most definitely NOT be a broke ass freelance photographer. Someone like that would either run his own company, or would have sold that technology to somebody for many millions.
Of course, I brag about being familiar with his various print incarnations, but I don't know whether that was maybe already in the comics before. I don't recall it, I only remember him fiddling with his web-launchers, but correct me if I'm mistaken.
But that's the thing. Altering the backstory a bit to make it work as a movie is generally accepted, if grudgingly. This change, meanwhile, filled a massive
plothole from the comics.
And as much as I had initially been geekraged by that - I enjoyed that first movie tremendously, and the sequel managed to keep up (which was still a bit of a novelty back then, wasn't it).
J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson. Fucking hell. Spot on. Perfection. They even both begin their names with a J as an initial!
I watched the first of the Andrew Garfield movies and was like... why
? Why even bother?
Of course, I know why Sony bothered, but that's still what came to mind.
As for Spidey's entry into the MCU. I would have loved it if they had made it so that the new, more youth-appeal Spiderman was actually Peter's and Mary Jane's kid, coming into his powers. Could have written a nice part for "Dad who disapproves", could have retconned him into the events from Avengers (he was already retired from hero-ing, and during the alien invasion, was busy keeping Queens safe, never made it to Manhattan, which is why nobody saw him).
The idea isn't mine, but that would have gotten me excited for a new Spider-Man movie, even if it was aimed at the youth market as I head the Tom Holland films have been.
Without that. I saw the trailers, I saw him in Infinity Wars and was like "meh...".
If there were absolutely anything to be afraid of, don't you think I would have worn pants?
I said I have a big stick.