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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Pattio » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:17 am

I'll give that a try next season. I never did make it to to a RI rockers ride. I've removed myself from the RI and CT Rockers on FB so maybe shoot me a reminder some future Thursday night if you're heading down to ride in RI.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby MATPOC » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:52 pm

oh wow, Rocker no more? I never made it back in to RI group, still on CT group, they are a lively bunch, they ride, they meet, also have some balls to I'm not afraid to hurt some fragile feelings.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:11 am

Find a nice quiet place and picture the sound of a loud, wet "PLOP" as a turd hits the pavement, and with that in mind Victory Motorcycles proudly presents the All New, Long Awaited, Project 156 Indian Scout Octane!

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Mean Chuck » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:03 am

It looks like a damn nice bike and if they didn't already have the Scout and didn't hype this up the way they did I might be slightly impressed.

Where is the Diavel or Griso competitor I was imagining from all their propaganda?
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Pattio » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:29 am

With a high-revving engine character and surprising high-rpm power hit, it behaves more like a sportbike than any American V-twin that has come before.


(Coughing fit)

All my prodigious snark tendencies set aside, this new Victory is a not-ugly bike with good performance from an American company at a good price and I wish them success with it.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Mean Chuck » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:27 am

......and then there's this, which I still like better.

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:34 am

Bigshankhank wrote:Find a nice quiet place and picture the sound of a loud, wet "PLOP" as a turd hits the pavement...


Goddammit! Will they please stop fucking around and put it in an upright/standard frame? Fer chrissakes, is it really that fuckin' hard? I mean, com'on, it's a Scout. They dialed back the Indian styling and hid the rear of the frame, but strip 'em both down and I'll wager they're 99% identical.

Pattio wrote:(Coughing fit)

All my prodigious snark tendencies set aside, this new Victory is a not-ugly bike with good performance from an American company at a good price and I wish them success with it.


I'm not going to try to justify the frame (it's a cruiser, 'nuff said), but seriously, if you get a chance give the Scout (or the Octane, or whatever) a try. The engine seriously is tremendous. I desperately want to have an unsupervised run on one so I can see what she'll really do, but even my sedate little test ride told me most of what I need to know. :shock:

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Pattio » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:22 pm

Jaeger wrote:
I'm not going to try to justify the frame (it's a cruiser, 'nuff said), but seriously, if you get a chance give the Scout (or the Octane, or whatever) a try. The engine seriously is tremendous. I desperately want to have an unsupervised run on one so I can see what she'll really do, but even my sedate little test ride told me most of what I need to know. :shock:

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I'm not going to pass up a chance to test ride one someday when the chance presents itself. They've been emailing me promotions constantly, and sending mailers from my local dealer, which probably has something to do with my enthusiasm for the showgirls in high-waisted form-fitting red slacks at the IMS show and whatever it was they asked me to fill out to win something.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:41 pm

Pattio wrote:...which probably has something to do with my enthusiasm for the showgirls in high-waisted form-fitting red slacks at the IMS show and whatever it was they asked me to fill out to win something.


Funny, that's how Triumph initially hooked me at the IMS show in 2002 with the Bonnie/Speedy line. ;)

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:51 am

Pattio wrote:
red wrote:I agree with Pattio and MH, standard position, v-twin power plant and modern suspension/brakes. Something along the lines of the Duc Scambler base model.


Oh yes. If the Scout was more like the Scrambler that would be so dreamy.


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BikeEXIF wrote:THE BIKE WE’VE BEEN WAITING for Indian to build is here. Well, almost. We’re told it’s a prototype, but we know it’s also a big step towards a production-ready Indian Scout tracker.

This is the world’s first glimpse of the FTR1200 Custom, to be revealed in the metal at the huge EICMA show in Italy. It’s inspired by the Scout FTR750 flat tracker, the race bike ridden by the Wrecking Crew to the first three places in the American Flat Track Series.

The FTR1200 has been built with the help of Indian’s race team, but it’s more than a thinly disguised racer. It’s a street tracker powered by Indian’s regular 1133 cc V-Twin road engine, which now exhales through a stunning set of high pipes....



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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby xtian » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:47 am

I tried to find a gif to express my feelings about that bike but they were all porn.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby DerGolgo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:24 am

ZAT is what an Indian Scout should be. Something small and nimble, like the original Scout had been (by the standards of its time).
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:50 am

Yeah, I'm pretty stoked. As at least one of those articles points out, the end product will have less carbon fiber and more exhaust restrictions, but...

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:42 am

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Rench » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:35 am

I'd hit it.

It is pretty definitively more exciting than anything over at their primary competitors page. They need to move on timeliness and make the price reasonable though.

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:39 pm

Rench wrote:make the price reasonable though.

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:02 pm

Bigshankhank wrote:
Rench wrote:make the price reasonable though.

Good luck with that.


Well, the Scout is "only" $12K MSRP, which on the grander scheme of things ain't that goddamn bad. A new HD Sportster 1200 is $11K MSRP, and the Scout would spank it like a red-headed stepchild.

The Triumph Bobber is a better comparison, and it's $11.9K, so it's comprable.

Of course, I'm talking about the Scout and not this Scrambler thing, but... we'll see. Indian/Polaris is trying to keep it competitive. So far they're doing a good job.

Not like I'm going to have that kind've cheddar anytime soon anyway, so it's all just pr0n to me. :mrgreen:

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Pattio » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:28 am

The Scout Custom concept gets a big 'yes please' from me. As an old man I would prefer to see that same bike but with more seat, low-level exhausts, and more fender, but I guess that's what old age has done to me. It's like looking at a naked girl and thinking 'damn, I bet she would look good in a form-fitting dress' :-)
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:54 pm

Pattio wrote:The Scout Custom concept gets a big 'yes please' from me. As an old man I would prefer to see that same bike but with more seat, low-level exhausts, and more fender, but I guess that's what old age has done to me. It's like looking at a naked girl and thinking 'damn, I bet she would look good in a form-fitting dress' :-)


I hear ya w/r/t the seat. One of the biggest attractions of my Speedy was the big, fat, juicy, cushy saddle. One can (and should) argue that the pegs are too far forward (they are), but goddamn, my ass is still happier on that saddle than on anything else I've ever ridden.

On that note, I'll also point out that basically what you're describing is... a Scout? The stock saddles on those are pretty comfy. Not as cushy as my Speedy, but not bad. They don't have the upright posture and they sacrifice some lean angle, but...

I mean, that is why old men (like me) like cruisers.

And as for the nekkid girl... I don't remember who originally said it, but it is absolutely true: "There is nothing quite so naked as a scantily clad woman." ;)

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby AZRider » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:58 am

As an aesthetic exercise, this is not quite my thing. I am not sure which elements of street-tracker-ness this design doesn't have for my taste, but it doesn't.
As a performance machine, this gets a big WOW!! Yep, a knob polisher for sure.
What really exctes me about it is the prospect that the American motorcycle consumer is interested in a bike like this. Polaris has been willing to take design risks, and has flopped, in the past. In doing so, they have pushed the envelope of what customers will buy. So maybe this is another case of Polaris building what they hope people will buy, but maybe they have done (are doing with this prototype) the research to see if the customers are out there. I hope they are. Sport bike sales have SUCKED for a decade, sport-tourers are selling like yesterday's newspapers, and generally the American market is showing little interest in bikes that do anything besides make a lot of noise while going straight.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:47 am

AZRider wrote:...What really exctes me about it is the prospect that the American motorcycle consumer is interested in a bike like this. Polaris has been willing to take design risks, and has flopped, in the past. In doing so, they have pushed the envelope of what customers will buy. ...


Yeah, I'm stoked by the idea of an American(ish) company making real, honest-to-goodness performance motorbikes. HD has had the American market by the shorthairs for far too long, and folks like me would love to ride a domestic bike if (1) they were affordable, and (2) didn't suck. Right now, Indian looks like it fits the bill. Were I buying a new bike this moment it'd be a toss-up between the Scout and the Triumph Bobber, and the former would likely win simply to support the Yankee company.

I'm a little worried that you're right about sales, though -- folks aren't buying bikes like they used to, and the new generation seems generally less interested in having their own motorized transportation. That's a different issue, tho. :P

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:11 pm

Jaeger wrote:
I'm a little worried that you're right about sales, though -- folks aren't buying bikes like they used to, and the new generation seems generally less interested in having their own motorized transportation. That's a different issue, tho. :P

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I thinks its more a matter of up and coming riders aren't buying litre bikes and mega cruisers, but sales of small displacement motos are still rocking. I see tons of FZ07's, CB500's, Groms and the like tooting around central Florida, certainly not more than the normal HD and clones, but then again most of the people I know who are big time HD lifestyler's aren't replacing their rides, either. So if an american manufacturer were to take a shot at THAT market segment, maybe there's some low hanging fruit worth picking. Revive the Indian Brave and the HD Hummer(lol I dare them) or Sprint at around 300-400ccs and in the ballpark of $6k and see where that takes them. Fact is that price point is still steep at that level, but if you get loyalists to 'murrican brands they might be willing to help get their kids on one at a premium price.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Pattio » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:06 am

It’s a subject we’ve talked about here before, but I think it’s still core to a youth-m arket problem: even If HD engineers came up with a charming and versatile light or mid-weight bike, and found a way to manufacture it at a reasonable price, potential buyers would still have to navigate the company’s hidebound souvenir stand of a dealer network to try and buy it.
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:28 am

Pattio wrote:It’s a subject we’ve talked about here before, but I think it’s still core to a youth-m arket problem: even If HD engineers came up with a charming and versatile light or mid-weight bike, and found a way to manufacture it at a reasonable price, potential buyers would still have to navigate the company’s hidebound souvenir stand of a dealer network to try and buy it.


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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby 0l4fderstout » Wed May 30, 2018 5:25 am

Hey there. (not dead, though the universe fookin tried hard.) So, I went and test rode the Scout Sixty, and while I'm not in a hurry to get rid of the douche canoe, I added the Scout to my stable. Where the Road King is like riding with the grace of a half ton missie of iron and brain boggling noise, the scout sucked me in with the agility of a greased dancer in a teflon suit. I'm doing a fair amount of foray into urban areas and the Harley is ok at that, but honestly I like the squirrely assed fun of this little zippy bike.

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Wed May 30, 2018 5:43 am

Cool! I thoroughly enjoyed the Octane (RIP) when I rode one a couple years ago, so I can imagine the Scout is just as much fun. Ride hard!
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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:14 am

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In other news... I'm going to look at a new Scout this upcoming week. Athena's at the point where I don't know if she's worth fixing, and I just don't trust her any more. Even if I got everything sorted, she's still 15 years old. If someone were to say "hey, want to go ride 1,000 miles?" I'd be hesitant to do it on her lest I get stranded. :P

We'll see. Hoping to get that .99% financing while it still lasts. :shock:

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Bigshankhank » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:49 pm

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:mrgreen:

In other news... I'm going to look at a new Scout this upcoming week. Athena's at the point where I don't know if she's worth fixing, and I just don't trust her any more. Even if I got everything sorted, she's still 15 years old. If someone were to say "hey, want to go ride 1,000 miles?" I'd be hesitant to do it on her lest I get stranded. :P

We'll see. Hoping to get that .99% financing while it still lasts. :shock:

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Re: TEST RIDE: INDIAN SCOUT!

Postby Jaeger » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:05 pm

Bigshankhank wrote:Do it.
You’ve worked hard and deserve it. No snark, seriously I had to play the mental game of “well do I really want to spend the money like this” before I bought the Duke and the answer is you should have something that is fun. We are motorcyclists, after all.
Do it.


In all honesty, that's kind've where I'm at. I bust my ass and generally try to live frugally, but life is too goddamn short. :mrgreen:

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