The Futbol Supporters Thread

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Mon May 17, 2010 11:13 am

Fuckin HI-larious.

I was able to make out "Piquionne" (on loan from Lyon to Pompey) and "foot".

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:44 pm

I watched Leeds a few times this year. They did well.

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:38 am

Leeds squeaked it out, that's for sure. Its a step in the right direction, and no damn last promotion spot playoff to dick around with.

A couple of years in the Championship, the addition of a couple of solid players with experience and it'll be up once more, back where they belong.

I really hope Pompey doesn't take the scenic route to League One and that they stabilize in the Championship. It's going to be rough on 'em. I watched that FA Cup final against Chelski and they damn near pulled that one out. They've got some heart.

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:42 pm

Pompey did well didn't they. I hope West Ham get Grant.

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Thu May 27, 2010 4:12 pm

Sounders 3 - 0 Boca Juniors

Buh-bye now, thanks for playin.

I know it was a friendly and all, but shit. All the goals came from our subs, even one who hasn't been officially signed by the club and never had one minute in a match before.

How do you say "You got knocked the fuck out!" en espanol?

\oo/

\oo/

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Thu May 27, 2010 4:48 pm

I never trust the international friendlies. When DC beats a scrub AC Milan team, you know it just isn't right.

Good to see subs getting some playing time though.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Fri May 28, 2010 7:12 am

Orright, haven't been on this thread for a while. I'm going to get to the point, run a few ideas up the flag pole, and put it all in bullet points.

*Fucking hate Leeds. Play like a bunch of playground thugs. More interested in kicking the opposition than kicking the ball. They were like that in the '70's and nothing has changed now (one player sent of for violent conduct in their final match this season, right?). Learn to play football and leave the handbags at home you twats.

*Very disappointed that WHU got rid of Zola. The club needs stability and I think Zola has all the potential to be a great manager. Not inspired by the new owners at all and I don't think Avram Grant is a good choice for the club. I'd MUCH rather see Slaven Bilic get the job; the man's got passion, a footballing brain, managerial experience, and a WHUFC heritage. Thanks for keeping us up, GZ, and bring on Bilic!

*South Africa 2010, come on Ingerlund you Bastards!!!!

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Fri May 28, 2010 7:22 am

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Fri May 28, 2010 8:59 pm

Oi johnny, that's the spirit!

So I take it you're not a fan of Leeds. The Teutonic Jebus giving me the finger is brilliant, but I'll have to forward your desecration of the crest to Bulldog Russ, who will be jetpacking to Nippon Land and seeing you presently.

You call it

Play like a bunch of playground thugs

I call it hard-nosed, hard challenge football by a side scratching their way up out of the basement with everything they've got.

You said:

They were like that in the '70's

I say thanks. That's probably the best compliment anyone could pay. Patrick Kisnorbo would probably kiss you right on the mouth for saying that.

I wish I had some hatred of The Hammers to throw in your face, but unfortunately for me I don't. I'm sure it'll develop if the boys keep on the path up, so I guess there's hope.

How about this: West Ham just confirmed Avram Grant, so there fucker!

Gazza - Yeah, I got ya on the friendlies, but man, it's been tough and at this point we needed some positive to build on other than the fact that the Sounders are actually creating chances by the bucket. It's finishing those chances that's been the killer. That last match against San Jose we out-shot them 18-3 and at least 5-6 of those were good chances that were just pushed high or wide because our forwards are, honestly, really, really nervous with the ball and are, I'll say it, choking. Hello Brad Evans (who shouldn't even be up front). Schmid put him up front the last few games and he choked on EVERY shot he took, some of them at an open net. Against Boca he missed a wide open, easy tap in from two fucking yards. TWO YARDS! (did I mention OVER THE FRAME) It rivaled that horrendous miss of Landons at Everton in it's overwhelming suckness. Choke. Ljungberg, choke. Montero, choke.

I'm not sure how it is in the other MLS cities, but man, there's a ton of pressure to perform here, from a shitload of supporters and fans alike to the local media who have moved beyond having to provide coverage and are now giving them coverage daily and developing a taste for the game . They are feelin it and not responding well.

IF they can pull it together, loosen up a little and play up to their potential, there's still time to save this campaign. Maybe Nkufo can bring some leadership to this side after the World Cup.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:57 am

Hahahaha! Nice one, Drift.

I should say a few things in regards to my previous post. Firstly, I was bordering shitfaced drunk at the time. I tend to spout filth in the face of the supporter of any club other than WHUFC whilst in such a state. This habit has led to many interesting conversations during football matches watched in public houses. Let's just say I'm lucky I still have all my own teeth.

Do I hate Leeds? Well, yes, because they are not West Ham. That fact alone make them worthy of some kind of tirade.

The Leeds teams of the '70's were winners, true, but dirty, violent, diving, cheating ones. I'm not advocating soft football at all, but give me a team that will play attractive football, tackle hard, but also respect their fellow professionals, referees, and the rules of the game. Much like WHUFC.

The two images I posted came after a quick Google image search for "Fuck off Leeds United" or something along those lines, so I can't lay claim to any originality there. But yes, it seems that even Jesus doesn't like Leeds United.

I will give Leeds this: I thought they were doing a great job when they had David O'Leary as manager and he had the balls to play such a young side. Must've been stuff he picked up from his time playing for Arsenal, because they were playing quite a positive, exciting brand of football for those few seasons. Shame it all went to hell.

I haven't heard anything about Grant being given the job at West Ham; a bit of speculation on the Beebs, and nothing at all on the WHU website, so shut yer flamin' gob!

Will the real Avram Grant please step forward:

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Sat May 29, 2010 10:18 am

Crikey!

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Sat May 29, 2010 2:20 pm

I saw the Grant thing on the Fox Soccer Report last night, They said he was already digging his way through 30 players on the transfer list who were possible for West Ham.

With the way that dude looks, you expect him to be leading you down into some dungeon or secret underground laboratory. He just needs a hump and a candleabra.

Gotta go play the Wii with the kid.

C'mon you Sounders! Pull it together tonight boys....

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Sun May 30, 2010 3:18 pm

England 2 - 1 Japan

Match Report:

England were total shite. I have not seen such a disjointed performance from any side in years. The players should be hanging their heads in shame. The Japanese must be going home thinking "How do you score 3 goals in a match and yet lose 2 -1?"

A pathetic display of "football".

UndertheGun · Post by **UndertheGun** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:20 pm

Lol

My host father and I watched the match last night too. I'm sure England was tired but they were fucking sloths. Both of their “goals“ were total flukes. Hopefully they don't perform this poorly once the games begin to matter.

Despite their last two goals, Japan did play a hell of a lot better than their previous game against Korea. I'm not sure that is saying much but maybe they won't be complete failures in the WC...
Also, I think the'd be much better served without a mediocre J-league manager.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Mon May 31, 2010 1:34 am

England were an embarrassment last night, but I do think Tulio's own goal was the result of pressure from a decent ball into the box. The second own goal was pure luck, and Lumphard's missed penalty says a lot about Englands performance.

I think from the outset Englands players underestimated the Japanese team, and then once they went a goal down they got more and more despereate as the match went on. Rooney, however, played quite well, but continually needed to drop back into midfield to try and create something because no-one else was going to do something special or make much of an opportunity for the forwards.

The Japanese manager? I do not rate him at all and have no idea why they chose him in the first place. Judging on past performances, Japan needs another foreign manager that will put a bomb under the players and push them to really perform.

England may have been TOTAL shite, but Japan lost the match. That says a lot for the current state of Japanese football and it makes me sad.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Mon May 31, 2010 7:20 am

Drift, seems your Leeds has lost their top goal scorer to Everton:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 714418.stm

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Mon May 31, 2010 8:47 am

You knew someone would pick him up. He was on fire in the FA cup.

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Mon May 31, 2010 3:00 pm

Right on. I was wondering who was going to pick him up. Soccer Report comes on in another hour or so.

Hopefully, Mike Grella(USA) can turn on the burners now. Grella sold everthing and bought a one way ticket to England, convinced he could be a first team player somewhere and took a very realistic perception of his skills with him. I've seen him work very well with both Becchio and Kandol and if what I've seen is any indicator, he'll put in the extra effort to be ready for the Championship sides.

Gonna have to lay down the extra duckets for the expanded soccer package now that Leeds coverage will be included.

LEEDS, LEEDS, LEEDS!!

I can't talk about the Sounders right now. I wonder if they make soccer specific anti-depressants. Oh yeah, they do. WENCH, FETCH ME A GUINNESS AND KEEP 'EM COMING!

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:30 am

Oh hoo-fucking-rah:

Questionable New Ownership Make Management Appointment

[deadpan sarcasm]Yay. Can't wait for next season.[/deadpan sarcasm]

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:52 am

I have no faith in WHUFC's ownership at all.

Regarding the Grant signing they said: "I think it's time for the football club to get some stability with people that have been there, done that and got the T-shirt. What we need is a manager who has achieved, has experience. We are not in a position where we can take on young, inexperienced managers."

Grant has managed a few sides in the Israeli league, was in "charge" of the Chelsea squad (for less than a season) that was unchanged after Mourinho left (and still obviously motivated by their ex-manager), and saw Portsmouth relegated, although having a good Cup run (again less than a season).

I can't really see how Grant has proven himself as a class, experienced manager.

Compared to Zola, who did very well in his first season with the club, and then in his second season, with all the uncertainty over the club's ownership, plus loads of bullshit from the new owners, scrapped a tight survival. I'd say sticking with Zola would've added to the stability and future of WHUFC.

"We did ask Franco to keep us up and he did that, but I think we need to move on from that. New owners like to choose their own people." Which underlines the fact that they care more about running the club their way than they care about the staff, support, legacy, and future of West Ham United FC.

Not impressed.

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:30 pm

Johnny, I agree 100%. Sticking with Zola would have, in my opinion been a better choice, and for all of the reasons you listed.

I think they've got a tough season coming up.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:40 pm

Yeah, and add in the fact that the owners have said "everyone is for sale, except Scott Parker", well yes, I think the coming season might be a bit worrying.

I hate it when people fuck with my football club.

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:24 pm

I think I have been depressed since Zola left, I mean I like Grant ok, but I just don't want them to sink.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:49 am

To the staff, players, and support: let's see times like this again!

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:41 pm

Drift,

Tonight it's on DC vs Sounders. A great way to prep for the World Cup is by watching a crap D.C. team the night before.

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:30 pm

Shit man. Can we do ANYTHING right? United looked way different last night. The one thing that was obvious, and you don't see it much in MLS, was DC knowing their game plan and sticking to it. Once again, the Sounders just couldn't get a ball in goal (until the 90th fucking minute) even though we controlled posession and played mostly in United's half of the pitch.

No excuses. Keller made uncharacteristic mistakes and it cost us, and our back line played like they were in Rec League a couple of times and DC capitalized just like they should when the opportunity presents. DC played well and deserved the win they got. Fuck.

I hate bitching about the officiating (and in no way am I blaming the ref for last night's loss) but something has to be done, league wide, to define what is and what is not an acceptable challenge. My take is that if you are playing the ball then a hard challenge is part of the game, but when a challenge comes that in no way makes any attempt to play the ball, and is dangerous, that the card needs to be shown. Last night I saw three challenges that made no attempt to play the ball and wouldn't be legal in rugby. Two were made against the Sounders (Zakuani and Montero) where the challenging player came in with a flying knee to the back, both times knocking the challenge-ee hard to the ground. The other was the Sounders Patrick Ianni, blatantly just taking out a United player that was starting a run into the final 1/3rd. All should have been met with cards, but were deemed no calls.

FIFA needs to drop the hammer on the MLS officials. It makes the league look like a joke. The season is over in Europe, can't we get some of those guys to work here in the off season (except that one dude who presided over the Arsenal/Porto fiasco)?

motorpsycho67 · Post by **motorpsycho67** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:52 pm

Anybody like rugby? NRL anyone?

Am I an outcast among the outcasts?

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:22 pm

motorpsycho67 wrote:Anybody like rugby? NRL anyone?

Am I an outcast among the outcasts?

No man, this is the real futbol thread, not some rugby BS. Start your own ruby thread.

DC. looked like a totally different team last night and I think it was because they were playing so many young guys. As you can see, it is no longer about Emilio and Moreno. They looked great last night.

Sorry for your loss.

motorpsycho67 · Post by **motorpsycho67** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:48 pm

gazza wrote:
motorpsycho67 wrote:Anybody like rugby? NRL anyone?

Am I an outcast among the outcasts?
No man, this is the real futbol thread, not some rugby BS. Start your own ruby thread.

Soccer is for guys that don't have the balls to play rugby.

gazza · Post by **gazza** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:07 pm

motorpsycho67 wrote:
gazza wrote:
motorpsycho67 wrote:Anybody like rugby? NRL anyone?

Am I an outcast among the outcasts?
No man, this is the real futbol thread, not some rugby BS. Start your own ruby thread.

Soccer is for guys that don't have the balls to play rugby.

Wicked burn! How much do they play? One cauliflower ear and most are done.

THe only rugby I have watched is six nations. Plus, rugby is too upper class anyway. Keep it working class, keep it football!

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