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Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Thu May 05, 2022 1:14 pm

Sent the info... no response. Found another possible cable set that may swap in, used on eBay. Sent an offer.

Went to see what I have to work with on the broken heated grip wire (at the grip heater), and damn it, I broke the other!
As The Thing (rock man, not shape shifting alien) says, "It's SOLDERING time!".

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Fri May 27, 2022 8:05 am

eBay seller never replied to any of my questions or offers. However, MotionPro did finally reply, and my order has been submitted. No clue on turn-around time yet (Update: 2-4 weeks). Once the cables are on, it's back to dialing in the carbs. One problem with all this carb pulling is that the brass "locking" tabs that cover the bolt heads are starting to get very weak. They attach the intake plate (?) to the carb bodies, and keep the bolts from backing out. So, I'm gonna try clear nail polish, or elmers glue; both were suggested for this type of low torque application.

While digging around eBay yesterday, I managed to score a pair of Aerostich Darien pants in my size for $72! I had a pair of AD1 pants that I loved, wore them riding, hiking, working in the garage, and in the snow. Sold them when I cleaned out my gear after selling the XJ. These don't have all the fancy pockets but they're still Gore-Tex. Now, I just need some new boots.
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by problemaddict » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:57 am

Check shopgoodwill.com for gear. I scored a set of new looking SIDIs for like $40 shipped. Recently scored a Fox motocross jersey and pants for $50...
They don't have much moto stuff but what you find us usually a score.

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:37 am

problemaddict wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:57 am
Check shopgoodwill.com for gear. I scored a set of new looking SIDIs for like $40 shipped. Recently scored a Fox motocross jersey and pants for $50...
They don't have much moto stuff but what you find us usually a score.
Holy crap, thanks! I had completely forgotten about that site! I just put a bid on some Frank Thomas boots, and a waterproof jacket from Icon!

Also, my throttle cables should be delivered today, by the big brown truck of happiness. Hopefully I'll get to test fit them tonight, and maybe even fire up the bike over lunch tomorrow. *fingers crossed*
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:41 am

Got the throttle cables installed last night, after a few different routing attempts to avoid binding. Nice and snappy. Then, had to take them off to lube them. Used a trick from MC Garage, with a plastic bag and rubberband.



It worked great! I used some high end Dupont dry film lubricant that I've used on my 3d printers. Cables are back in, and the bike is ready for some fresh fuel and maybe a test ride today. Probably should dig out my riding gear..
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Post by Bigshankhank » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:56 am

Dude this is awesome news!
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:01 am

Managed to squeeze in a quick ride around the 'hood. Went to the gas station, and ran out of gas as I rolled in. What luck!

Jetting is definitely still off. Initially, I had put a second washer under the needle and I think that may be part of my issue, so I'm going to remove it and then go back to testing the mains, then to the next stage.

For anyone needing CV tuning, check this out:

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Also, holy shit it's terrible outside. 94F and 1000% humidity. One day, I'll wise up and buy mesh gear.
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:29 am

I rode to work yesterday, rode at lunch, and took the long way home. Jetting is definitely still wrong, and damn that pipe is loud, even with the baffle. I found a crusty OEM exhaust on eBay that I am STRONGLY considering, then just revert to stock jetting and see how it goes.

I'm also struggling with the desire to just go buy a fucking KLR and shove the CBR in the shed.

Or... there's a 2007 Ural Tourist for sale locally. Always wanted a side car rig, kids are getting big enough to ride along....
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Post by problemaddict » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:53 am

One at a time!!

(Do as i say, not as i do! :D)

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:15 pm

The Ural sold right before we got there. ☹️ The Himalayan is snazzy but, I couldn't do it. I did however, order the exhaust from eBay.
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by Jaeger » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:42 am

red wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:15 pm
The Ural sold right before we got there. ☹️ The Himalayan is snazzy but, I couldn't do it. I did however, order the exhaust from eBay.
Himalayan? Like the Enfield? I tried of the 500 bullets a while back and it didn't have enough ass to get out of its own way -- at least on American highways.

Pity about the Ural tho. And yeah, dropping the dime on a KLR or the like will probably be a more efficient use of your time and treasure. ;)

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Post by red » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:28 am

I just tested out 125 mains, seemed a bit better but regardless, I'm ditching this squid exhaust. So I'll probably strip the exhaust off tonight or tomorrow and revert the jetting back to stock. The crusty OEM exhaust should be here Monday, along with the exhaust gaskets. I'll have to sand and paint it quickly and get everything assembled as I have a 2 day window (July 2-3) to do whatever the hell I want. I'd prefer that to be riding but if I can't get it all done, I may settle for a car camping trip.

@Jaeger , Yes the Royal Enfield. I didn't even test ride it but keep in mind, I'm a scrawny little man, so most bikes don't even know I'm there.
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:56 am

Got the factory exhaust cleaned up, painted, and installed yesterday, as well as the carb jetting back to stock. So, besides the K&N filter, the bike is back to stock fuel/air setup. Just ran the first heat cycle to cure the ceramic coating. It's definitely quieter but not quiet, not like modern bikes! I like the look of the factory exhaust, it just fits better than the big chrome fart can. Updates to come later today.
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Post by red » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:55 am

Jetting feels better in some places, worse in others. I managed to track down an OEM style paper filter, it should be here next week. That will put it back to complete stock. If issues persist, then at least I'll know it's not the jetting!


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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:48 am

My bike had a hole. A hole that needed to be plugged. So, a few quick measurements, load the printer with flexible TPU filament and poof, Robert is your mother's brother.
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I'm also trying to decide if I should put my top case on or leave it off. Thoughts?

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by problemaddict » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:54 am

Top case works, I think. But definitely black out that exhaust hanger/sidecase bracket, if that's not already on the to do list.

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:04 pm

The OEM style air filter helped a bit, but didn't cure all the woes. But I figured the bike was still lean due to it being freed from all that restrictive body work, as well as being down a snorkel. So, I plugged the intake hole, and took it out. Holy shit! Much better! But not as good as it should be. I set the carbs to as close as possible to a spec sheet from a race team in 87/88. Even better! I have 108 mains on order, so we'll see if that irons out the last bit.

I'm tired. Long story short, went camping locally, had a good time. Too lazy to type it up (again), and edit pics to post. You can just go to the blog post: https://7plus8.blogspot.com/2022/07/pro ... alive.html


Thank you all for the assistance, and encouragement over this journey! Feels damn nice to be back on two wheels. Now, to be honest. This bike fucking hurts to ride for anything over 45min. Gonna need to resolve that...
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:10 am

The 108 main jets have arrived, but unfortunately, my wife took a nasty spill and blew out her knee on Saturday. I'm gonna drain the carbs, and put the bike on the tender for a few weeks. Last thing I need is for something to happen to me too, and we're both in the gimp club. Just a temporary set back, to deal with much more important things.
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Post by red » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:23 am

With the bike being down for the time being, I decided to see what it would look like with my yellow pelican cases as panniers. During this mock up, I snapped off my license plate mount and figured, well, might as well do it now. So, I printed a new mount, ordered bar LEDs to use as signal and brake lights on the cases, and printed some spacers that should work to mount on the passenger peg frames.
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I need to increase the mains to 108, and rebuild the seat, but the seat will wait until the cases are attached.
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Post by Jaeger » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:36 am

You may inspire me to do the ammo-can panniers I've been thinking about for ages. I gotta get some watertight cargo on Lilah. I'm tired of trying to bungee everything down to the cargo rack.

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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:10 am

Jaeger wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:36 am
You may inspire me to do the ammo-can panniers I've been thinking about for ages. I gotta get some watertight cargo on Lilah. I'm tired of trying to bungee everything down to the cargo rack.

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Harbor Fright has some reasonably priced Pelican knock-offs that you might consider before metal ammo cans. My yellow ones came from work, they were gonna toss 'em since they had old network testing equipment that was headed for the recycler. I wish they were lighter but at least they're waterproof and durable. Top load would be much better but they are what they are. Pelican makes top loaders but they're expensive, model 1430 and 1440 if I recall correctly.

I started to get hesitant about hard top cases, especially lower ones like Pelicans, when I read a few reports of riders breaking their backs on them when they got rear-ended. I'm just going to strap on a big roll top dry bag to carry all my soft stuff (sleeping bag, tent/tarp and etc). Smashable stuff goes in the cases.

With all this prep work, I'm pray to the moto gods that I get to roll out US50 to hang with you all.
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Post by red » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:37 am

Started the installation process for the side cases. I need to make a bracket for the front bottom, to add a 4th mounting point, and get a
longer bolt for the left side seat mount. I'm trying to come up with another bracket idea for the top rear to help carry weight. Other than that, it's on to wiring.
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Post by red » Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:59 pm

Just kidding, these LEDs are terrible. I found some ridiculous combo taillights to use instead. They look like they came off a bumper of an old range Rover. Decided to do it right this time, and ordered a pack of multicolor wire.
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:28 pm

CaN yOu sEe Me NoW?

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Post by red » Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:18 am

Who has functional tail lights, strobing center brake light, and turn signals? This guy!

Now...I did commit a cardinal sin. The automotive wire I ordered from Amazon is fucking terrible. So, I used what I had, (I feel ashamed just typing this) I used red for all of the wiring between the Honda harness and the tail lights. Please don't judge me, but it was 12:30am, and I just wanted it done. Maybe, just maybe, over the winter months, I will rewire it all. The only person this hurts is me, and I've gotten damn good at that over the years.



I changed the mains to 108, and printed up a plug for the air box, no more cardboard and painters tape.
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Next up is wiring my single fork mounted fog light, but my switch and mount haven't arrived yet. Once that is done, reassembly, and a test ride!
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Post by red » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:37 am

Choose your own adventure!
Problem:
The switch you ordered is clearly not weatherproof, but for $7, you aren't surprised.
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Possible solutions:
1. Track down your roll of sheet rubber and cut a small rectangle to add some protection.
Total Time: 5-10 min

2. Spend 5 min designing a piece to fit, finding the flexible filament, and then 25 min waiting for it to print.
Total Time: 30 min (at least)

Which do you choose?

You choose option 2, the needlessly complicated route, of course!
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Post by red » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:35 am

Fog light is mounted, wired, and ready. So, all that's left is to add fuel, and ride once my wife is more operational. The prospect of DooM22 is looking very real, and to say I'm very excited is an understatement.

"and the Lord said, "Let there be slightly more light!""

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Post by red » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:51 am

Mr Chekov, status report!

"Secondary navigation system is operational, sir!"
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Instead of spending $50+ on a RAM mount and all the bits, I mashed two different Garmin mount 3d print files together to make one that works with my old Nuvi. Huzzah!
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Post by red » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:45 am

So, the 108s are definitely better! I'd say I'm going to leave it as is, and ponder the idea of adding another shim under the needle in the future.

Riding with the cases was fine, seemed to help smooth out the back end over bumps, but not make it soggy feeling. I did a test ride to a local tailor to drop off the Aerostich Darien pants I won on eBay to get a few inches taken off the legs. I was expecting it to be about $100, so I was a little surprised when he said "$30 - $40". How the hell do those guys/gals make any money? I know that is not easy work, especially with gore-tex. When I pick the pants up, I'm going to drop off the Klim gore-tex jacket (also eBay) to get the sleeves lengthened. (Being 5'10'' and skinny with long legs and arms makes it hard to find gear that fits.)

I have scored a lot of good ADV style gear from eBay lately, all I need is a set of GoreTex gloves and a better pair of over the knee protection and I'll be all set to ride to Starbucks!
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Re: Project Bike Thread: 81 GS650GL & 87 CBR600F

Post by red » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:18 pm

The family is doing some stuff this Saturday, so I should be able to hit the road for some longer distance shake-down runs, as well as riding fully packed for DooM. Need to get my arse in shape for all the riding coming up in 58 days!
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