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Continuing Feature: 450cc Coat Rack - Part 1 & 2

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Continuing Feature: 450cc Coat Rack - Part 1 & 2

Post by red » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:37 pm

450cc Coat Rack: part 1

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*1 and 2 were written fall 2004 so you'll see a jump in mechanical knowledge between these and the upcoming part 3*


_____Last spring, I bought a 1969 Honda CL450 for the reasonable price of $125. Over the past year, the only work I did was change the oil. It was a case of “ ran ‘till parked” syndrome. Regardless of how much I wanted that damn bike to run, I never did a thing to it. It has sat in the living room of my apartment like a 450cc coat rack. I know for a fact there are some misc Halloween decorations hanging on it. How festive! The ’69 needs the tranny fixed, a good once over, new tires, cables and blah blah blah.

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I woke up this morning at 6am to pick up a ’73 CL450. Why am I buying another vintage Honda when I couldn’t even get the first one running? Because I can! And maybe, just maybe I can get off my lazy arse and actually finish a project I start. So, I have commited myself to this project and all the nickel and dime details. It’s only been in my possession for about 5 hours and I’ve already broken something on it.

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Yeah, I’m new to bike mechanics but I’d prefer to blame that little breakage on the 2 hours of sleep I’m running on. As I sat there trying to get the damn gas cap open, SNAP, I broke the release lever. So out comes the prybar and finally, I get the friggin cap open (yes, I broke another part of the lever). The tank smells like I could stain antique furniture to match my antique 2wheeled coat rack.

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For a little background about me, I used to be into off-roading so I’m not a complete moron around tools. I’m even looking into motorcycle mechanics courses. I normally work as an EMT but the risk isn’t worth the pay. So I work for a retail store slinging camping equipment.


Back to the bike…



This article will document all the things I break, do the wrong way and maybe even fix



‘till next time,

red.

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450cc Coat Rack: part 2



The ’69 is now in a pile at my apartment. It’s stripped down to the frame and I’ve gathered up all the parts I need for ’73. Today, I cracked open the garage door, let the sunshine in, cranked up Squirrel Nut Zippers and began gutting the ’73. The carbs are off, engine pulled and ready for the cylinder to be removed and prepped. Parts are in boxes, labeled Ziploc bags and hidden on top of shelves.

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Thankfully, I’m not slinging camping gear for a tiny paycheck. I found a good contract job, which gave me free time and a little extra money. So the rebuild continues. This Friday, new first bore pistons and rings will be ordered. The cylinder will be prepped for the machine shop. While it’s gone, the rest of the engine will get new gaskets, fluids and any other minor repairs I find along the way. Thank god for ebay, I found a Honda Factory Manual for $30.


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The two 450 engines are sitting on the garage floor and I’m fighting to temptation to throw in the working engine (sans 3rd gear) and see if I can get her running. The ’69 won’t be rebuilt, I’ve scavenged too many parts from it. So, I have my own parts department in various boxes spread out between my girlfriend’s house and my apt. I have quite a few extra parts so if anyone needs Honda CL/CB450 parts, drop me an email.


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Sundays are now my official garage days and I even found a poor guy to help me turn wrenches. If anyone is from central Indiana, you’re more than welcome to hangout and talk shop. I make a mean porkchop. Help is gladly paid in food or beer or both. The more I dig into my bike, the more I realize how little I truly know about them. Today, I didn’t know where the crankcase covers were. But that’s why I’m doing this instead of saving up cash for a new bike. I want the knowledge to keep my bike running without paying a mechanic. There’s still a lot of work to be done after the engine is back from the shop. The wiring is rotten and looks like a rats nest. The front drum brake is being swapped out for disc and maybe even new wheels front and back. I tried to salvage the drag bars but the wiring was just twisted together in points instead of soldered or crimped.


The work continues…


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Post by Beemer Dan » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:54 pm

Reading this is making me twitch to get in the garage with my Benelli project....is it snowing yet?
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Post by guitargeek » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:23 pm

Hang in there! The payoff is worth it!
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Re: Continuing Feature: 450cc Coat Rack - Part 1 & 2

Post by red » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:15 am

It's totally awesome that this still exists! I don't think part 3 ever left my head and made it to the forum. I finally got the CL to run but never reliably or well. It was a complete money pit, complicated by the fact that I had some unknown health issues that were greatly affecting my troubleshooting skills.

The dream of finishing up my contract job and riding all over the states on my old ratty Honda never came to fruition. Instead, it was replaced with a wife, a house, some dogs and eventually kids.

I wouldn't trade any of it for that dream.
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Re: Continuing Feature: 450cc Coat Rack - Part 1 & 2

Post by MATPOC » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:36 pm

450 is a great bike, however complicated motor with tightest valve clearance I had ever seen and odd system of valve adjustment. When they run proper it's a very fast bike, I may have seen only one in last few years that was actually running.

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Post by Jaeger » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:58 pm

red wrote:...Instead, it was replaced with a wife, a house, some dogs and eventually kids.

I wouldn't trade any of it for that dream.

This.

(Also, talk about a fuckin' resurrected thread!!)

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Post by red » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:35 am

MATPOC wrote:450 is a great bike, however complicated motor with tightest valve clearance I had ever seen and odd system of valve adjustment. When they run proper it's a very fast bike, I may have seen only one in last few years that was actually running.

Yeah, the valves were tricky. I made the noob mistake of trying to do upgrades before I got it running in stock condition. By the time I sold it, I had enough spare parts to build at least one spare engine with carbs. It's too bad so many CL450 and CL350 ended up getting mutilated into "cafe racers", I'd love to have my 450 back.
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Post by Bigshankhank » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:26 am

red wrote: Yeah, the valves were tricky. I made the noob mistake of trying to do upgrades before I got it running in stock condition. By the time I sold it, I had enough spare parts to build at least one spare engine with carbs. It's too bad so many CL450 and CL350 ended up getting mutilated into "cafe racers", I'd love to have my 450 back.

This! My best friend's dad bought a CB360T new in college and still had it up until about five/six years ago when he let my buddies brother have it. Kept it in the garage its whole life, completely original. I saw it a few weeks ago in pieces in the brother's garage, tank buried under a pile of garage detritus, carbs and pipes somewhere, a cooler resting on the back of the frame. Brother said he took it apart as soon as he got it home, been sitting like that ever since. Fuck an A, man.
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Post by guitargeek » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:06 pm

guitargeek wrote:Hang in there! The payoff is worth it!
ELEVEN YEARS LATER! :-D
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Post by guitargeek » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:08 pm

Red, what are you riding these days?
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Post by red » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:05 am

guitargeek wrote:Red, what are you riding these days?
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Post by guitargeek » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:08 pm

:-/
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Post by red » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:19 am

guitargeek wrote::-/
It's ok, gotta pay the kids and feed the bills. Bike shopping will be this time next year.
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Post by Jaeger » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:06 am

red wrote:
guitargeek wrote::-/
It's ok, gotta pay the kids and feed the bills. Bike shopping will be this time next year.
I feel ya, Brothah. I do. I'm right there with ya. :P

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