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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Post by DerGolgo » Sat May 07, 2022 1:43 pm

I have been sooooo looking forward to this show.
New Trek - but happy! Positive!

I'm 5 minutes into episode 1 and...

No. 1. The gloriously laconic first officer. The one when asked "State your name and rank" responded "Number One".

Her given name is "Una".

I'm already loving this show! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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Re: Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Post by DerGolgo » Mon May 09, 2022 3:00 pm

Okay. I've watched the pilot episode.
Three times.

Yes, it's that good.
It's about as Star Trek as Star Trek gets. Everything you love about ye old timey Trek?
It's got it. In spades. And shovels.
Even got
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conflict that's about to wipe out an entire civilization - and it's solved, peace is restored. By a Starfleet captain giving a big inspirational speech involving some recent personal insights he's had.
And it's even family-friendly. @Mk3, I believe you had been concerned about that, with newer Trek.
Yes, you can sit your kid down and let him watch it, no...

well, okay.
There are maybe three minutes a kid maybe shouldn't be confronted with. Not on their lonesome.
One of the crew has a dark backstory.
Remember Tasha Yar's backstory, from TNG season 1?
Darker.

So, maybe, watch this one with your kid. At timecode 41:00 to ~ 42:20, and again at 47:30 to 48:00 (not counting commercials), we learn the backstory of chief Noonien-Singh (or Lt. Noonien-Singh, according to Memory Alpha).
Short and intense young lady in a red shirt.
Her story involves
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The Gorn. And their reproduction. And everybody she ever knew and loved.
I mean it when I say it's darker than Tasha Yar.
So there are maybe three minutes that I wouldn't think are suitable for children.
Or maybe modern kids wouldn't even care.
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Of course, what the fuck do I know. Near as I can tell, by the time kids finish elementary school these days, they probably have seen more weird porn and brutal shit than I had by the time I dropped out of uni.

Anyone who refuses to believe that their child can lay their eyes on internet pron will have to concede that they probably have seen real, not staged, deaths. And not accidents.
Suicides and murders.
Endless news videos of police shootings. People are fucking streaming their suicide on facebook and tiktok. Or are streaming a spree shooting. When it's local daytime, when the Russian army can fight, I believe there is a plethora of live-streams of people being ripped apart by gunfire and shells in Ukraine.
So for all I know, the average 9 year old has the mental fortitude to watch (trigger warning: most awful method of execution I know off, just for illustration) a person being executed by sawing right in front of them.
So if Tasha's backstory was, to my mind, maybe just about child-appropriate because children watching free-to-air TV in the 1980s would have had no clue what the rape gangs she spoke of were supposed to be, except obviously really, really scary.
...not sure that chief Noonien-Singh's description of
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the entire population of her colony ship, including her entire family, being either eaten alive, or slit open and used as breeding-sacks. How she had to watch it all, still a child herself. And how she was chosen as a "survivor". Spared - to die slowly and alone in a spacecraft chucked into the void.
wouldn't be plenty easy to understand and visualize for a kid.

Three minutes I'd call PG.
The rest?
Awesome, Trek for all ages. And Spock in
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shorts!


Now, as a Trekkie, I gotta speculate on what the show is gonna do with what it's got. The unique situation of Pike, in particular.
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So. Pike knows when he's going to die. Or at least when the person he is will die, something else remaining.
Not when someone has scheduled it, is planning to kill him. Not when he might die. Not even when he'd probably die.

That is just so chock full of possibility!
He's got a firm appointment. Nothing he can do, or don't, that will affect the timing.

Nothing he can do. Will change. The time of that event. Nothing. So for about 10 years to come...

...he can draw his sword and challenge the gods! is the best way I can put it.

NOTHING can change the timing of his death. NO crazy stunt, NO suicide mission, NO NOTHING!

If he was a Klingon, well. Obviously.

I'm trying to picture what kind of mission Starfleet might send him on where he could use his guarantee to defy death, defy it every single time, before his horrible appointment.
Maybe he can challenge whoever governs the Gorn to a fight to the death, for the prize of Pike then getting to order all Gorn to stop using sentient beings for food or breeding sacks?

Or Klingons, actually. Maybe he can bring a quick end to a conflict with them by fighting a smooth-headed (recall, the smooth heads are still canonical according to DS9 and Enterprise) petaQ?

We know, and he knows, he's gonna walk away from them all. Has to, to make that appointment.
There's a deep well of philosophical ideas in there. And some insane stories they can tell!
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Re: Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Post by Bigshankhank » Tue May 10, 2022 11:05 am

Considering the buzz I've been hearing about this, Below Decks and Picard I feel like I need to expand my subscription services a bit and start watching.
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Re: Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Post by DerGolgo » Tue May 10, 2022 2:36 pm

Bigshankhank wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 11:05 am
Considering the buzz I've been hearing about this, Below Decks and Picard I feel like I need to expand my subscription services a bit and start watching.
If I may recommend:
Discovery should be familiar. Season 4 was good, though I thought not quite as fantastic as season 3. But solid.

Lower Decks: just good, naughty fun. An animated show for people who can accept that their TV heroes have a taint (yes, that does come up - it's hilarious, trust me!). You should probably start at the beginning, to get in on the character arcs (yes, it's got those), but you don't have to if you just want a laugh. This is animated, but it's for mature audiences.
Who am I kidding, it's for the utterly immature audiences. But immature audiences who got stuff to shave down there.

Prodigy: it's for children, and obviously for children who have no idea what Star Trek is, or how you replicator. Still, it's not the worst time-waster. If you can stomach Janeway.

Picard, season 1: episodes 1-8, FANTASTIC! Stumbles here and there, but not so much that it'd ruin the fun. Enjoy it!
Picard, season 1, episodes 9-10: it seems that the writers all quit and the final two episodes were written by the guy who cleans the office windows. Watch to get the plot completed, but don't expect the quality of the preceding episodes.
Picard, season 2: Full of brilliant ideas, and Alison Pill delivers a stellar performance.
Unfortunately, the connective tissue that should tie all this together just doesn't exist. The show is amnesiac, and rather than plant-reminder-payoff, we get purée of cold ramen. Served on fine China, by a really cute waiter, at a patio table with a breathtaking view and some nice enough wine. But it's still purée of cold ramen.

Four outta five shows, it's not so bad. Possibly, it will soon be five shows outta six, when that Section 31 show takes off. Fingers crossed.
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