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Earth forgot how to talk to it's emissary UPDATE THEY DID IT

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Earth forgot how to talk to it's emissary UPDATE THEY DID IT

Post by DerGolgo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:48 am

This is a story of great poetry, I feel, so I'll share it here.

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-la ... see-3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the 1970s, this probe was launched, to study the earth's magnetosphere.
Then, in 1983, that probe was told to turn on it's engines and depart it's home. To go on a long, lonesome journey, far away from it's masters. To study the source of all life on this ball, the sun itself.
It would embark on a far flung orbit, only rarely coming close to earth once more.
It did it's job, it seems, so eventually nobody cared about it much anymore. It was told to shut itself down and become quiet, a silent relic that would follow the Earth around the solar system, no longer measuring, no longer speaking. It's purpose fulfilled, it was abandoned, it was told to go away, even though it could do no different but to keep following us.
Now, once more, it's coming by us, close enough for us to hear it, could it still speak.
Which it does. Against all plans and expectations, it's still transmitting it's carrier signal. It's saying "hello", it's asking for orders. Ever loyal and ready to do it's maker's bidding, it's asking for instructions. What do we want it to do, please. It's silly to anthropomorphize, but ... it feels like a little dog. One that won't "go away" when told to, but will rather wag it's tail and look up expectantly, waiting for it's master to give it an order, ready to play.
Which is great. Except, we can't. It expects instructions - but we didn't expect we could make something so good. So loyal, so enduring. We didn't expect it to come back and be anything more than a dead lump of metal. We didn't expect 12 of it's 13 instruments to be still in working order, ready to look at what we point them at. We just didn't expect it to last the better part of four decades, no sir. So the machines we need to talk to it, we don't have them anymore. We scrapped them. Not even yesterday, but fifteen years ago.
Now, all we can do is listen to it's forlorn, humble request for instructions. As it dutifully tells us where it is, that it's ready to go to work. But as much as we want to, we cannot answer.
Emily Lakdawalla, quoting the loyal little machine's facebook page on planetary.org, wrote:The transmitters of the Deep Space Network, the hardware to send signals out to the fleet of NASA spacecraft in deep space, no longer includes the equipment needed to talk to ISEE-3. These old-fashioned transmitters were removed in 1999. Could new transmitters be built? Yes, but it would be at a price no one is willing to spend. And we need to use the DSN because no other network of antennas in the US has the sensitivity to detect and transmit signals to the spacecraft at such a distance.
It's not even that we really can't. There's no great natural phenomenon, no technical difficulty that stops us. But we won't spend the money. Fair enough, it's probably quite expensive for not a lot of data that could be gathered. Not really worth it just to talk to a single space probe. But this is where the poetry ends, where it stops being a tale of the loyally serving little emissary who's language we no longer speak. Here, it becomes a tale of bean counting and bureaucracy, of an opportunity wasted because of columns in a ledger. Yeah, there probably are much more worthwhile things to make such expenditures on. But ... a story full of poetic sadness becomes one that just sounds a little mean.

I hope that, maybe, the suggestion of the linked article's author, of the heroes of ham radio tracking it, that it goes a little further than that. The deep space network does have a lot of transmitters, or so I'm lead to understand. And it has a lot of entirely unreasonably overqualified and capable engineers working on those. People who understand the soul of a machine. People who might come up with a solution to use existing equipment. My phone can let me listen to radio, even though it has no FM demodulator. It does it with software. Maybe, as unlikely as it seems, someone comes up with a clever idea of how to repurpose a transmitter to emulate the one's that have been scrapped, with a fast, modern computer and some clever code taking the place of complicated circuits to generate the right signal. Maybe the problem is entirely different and there are no longer even the right amplifiers and antennas to transmit the right kind of frequency, or just in the right direction. But one can hope. It's not important. But it would be beautiful.


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Post by Bigshankhank » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:18 am

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Anthropomorphic in it into a dog was shitty.

In all seriousness, I am a huge lover of space exploration and while it would be interesting to re establish communications with this probe and maybe repurpose it to a new task, I wonder if it wouldn't be a vanity project more than a practical application of our resources? Would the instruments on board have been usurped technologically in the past forty years to the point that their functions could be performed more efficiently with less expenditure? Keep in mind that it is not just the hardware needed to communicate with the probe, but the engineers to maintain and monitor them. Somewhere in NASA there is a team of engineers who have been watching Voyager for forty years. Is this on that same scale to deserve that same commitment? Apparently not. As the author surmises, how cool would it be if the private enthusiast establishes contact, though?
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Post by DerGolgo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:22 am

All your points are entirely valid, beyond any doubt or criticism. Which makes this ever so much sadder, still. :cry:
Sometimes, the rational, logical, sensible thing is the one that hurts the most.
We have told it to die. It wouldn't. It keeps coming back, asking what we want it to do next. At least, we can't tell it to die once more. As much endowed with soul this machine might appear, it doesn't need any sweet release. It should carry on crying out for instructions. A brilliant testament to mankind outperforming it's own expectations for a change.
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Post by guitargeek » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:12 am

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Post by Bo_9 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:31 am

They should give all the technical papers still available on that probe to the aforementioned HAM radio nuts and hobby space engineers. They could probably rather easily crowd-source a meant to control it given the documentation. Perhaps for safety verify that they have no means to change it's course, (can't have it falling on LA) but let them gather the information it carries and likely find new ways to look at the information it gathers.
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Post by Jaeger » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:56 am

Entropy at work.

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Post by Bigshankhank » Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:32 am

It's time for Humankind to ditch the imaginary friends of our species' childhood and grow the fuck up.
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Post by beck » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:13 am

You go little buddy! You can still resume your mission!

I just hope they don't manage to communicate with the satellite only to have something go wrong to keep it from attaining it's new orbit. That could be the saddest thing ever. Trying desperately to follow it's new orders after 30 years only to slowly drift off into cold black space never to be captured again. *tear*
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Post by DerGolgo » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:11 am

Right. Right.
It wasn't just sent off someplace. It was "purloined" by a bunch of renegades, without exactly asking all those concerned for permission or approval.
On a hail-mary pass at a first-achievement in space. Into what was generally considered oblivion. Never to be seen again.
But not only is it coming back. Not only is it outperforming all expectations, not only is it really a heroic little probe that could, no.
It was one guy's orbit-fu that made it all happen - and they now have found, against all expectations, a satellite dish that can still talk to it, after all.

...

If there EVER was a story of triumph over adversity, about the over-qualified yet under-appreciated dreamers getting it done against all opposition ... this is it. There have to be at least a half-dozen script-writers just pouncing on this.
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Post by Bigshankhank » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:18 am

I see Bruce Willis as the renegade scientist/part-time MotoGP racer who commandeered the satellite in question while taking a break from mentoring a young Valentino Rossi. John Turturro will play the crazy Russian scientist defector who knows how to "hotwire" it from his years in the KGB. Jennifer Connelly can play the love interest, and Jim Parsons as the egghead NASA tech who gets recruited by being asked "Wanna do something crazy?" with a cameo by fellow Big Bang Theory alum Simon Helberg as an enterprising astronaut just to send the internet all abuzz.
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Post by DerGolgo » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:29 am

You need Paul Giamatti in there, somewhere. Definitely Paul Giamatti. Good guy, bad guy, incidental character, doesn't matter. This screams for Paul Giamatti.
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Post by Bigshankhank » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:02 pm

Ooo shit yeah, I forgot the put-upon engineer (who has a devoted but homely wife) who designed, managed the launch of and oversaw the original mission for the satellite before it was unceremoniously taken from him. He could be a total dick through the whole thing, but still make people feel sorry for him by the end when a single tear rolls down his face when they re-establish contact with "his baby".
After seeing his portrayal of Harvey Pekar, Giamatti definitely has this role.
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Post by Beemer Dan » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:07 pm

I'm thinking we get all of those folks to do the voices and Pixar to do the visuals.

That's a pretty amazing event really, I wonder what else we've put out there will find it's way home?
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Post by guitargeek » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:06 am

guitargeek wrote:Image
Nobody saw that movie.
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Post by Bigshankhank » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:02 am

guitargeek wrote: Nobody saw that movie.
Wrong
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Post by DerGolgo » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:57 am

guitargeek wrote:Nobody saw that movie.
We've all seen that movie.

But the Voyager probes were never abandoned. They were never forgotten, ignored or disregarded.
Heck, it was headline news when NASA worked out Voyager 1 had crossed the heliopause. They are still tracking signals from that. When Voyager 2 gets there in the next two years or so, it's instruments will provide the first direct direct measurements of the interstellar medium.
Mankind never stopped paying attention to the Voyager twins, they're still on the payroll after all these years.
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Post by Bigshankhank » Sat May 24, 2014 6:56 am

DerGolgo wrote: I hope that, maybe, the suggestion of the linked article's author, of the heroes of ham radio tracking it, that it goes a little further than that. The deep space network does have a lot of transmitters, or so I'm lead to understand. And it has a lot of entirely unreasonably overqualified and capable engineers working on those. People who understand the soul of a machine. People who might come up with a solution to use existing equipment. My phone can let me listen to radio, even though it has no FM demodulator. It does it with software. Maybe, as unlikely as it seems, someone comes up with a clever idea of how to repurpose a transmitter to emulate the one's that have been scrapped, with a fast, modern computer and some clever code taking the place of complicated circuits to generate the right signal. Maybe the problem is entirely different and there are no longer even the right amplifiers and antennas to transmit the right kind of frequency, or just in the right direction. But one can hope. It's not important. But it would be beautiful.


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Looks like we may get your wish after all.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/23/57453 ... ot-project
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Post by Bo_9 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:56 am

http://news.yahoo.com/success-private-g ... 01204.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:13 am

!!!!!!!!!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!

That.
Says.
It.
All.

Even if they find it's not quite working anymore, I must say.
This proves it. Humankind, you rock. Among your numbers are those who are just too whatever adjective to give up when they're told to, no. They bugger on, while others point and laugh, and against official resistance and feet dragging, technological problems and an earthquake, they get it done. And ...
Elizabeth Howell on news.yahoo.com wrote:Commands will be sent through Arecibo from "McMoon's", a command center Wingo and Cowing originally established in Mountain View, Calif. to restore old images from the NASA Lunar Orbiter spacecraft in the 1960s. McMoons got its name from its location: an abandoned McDonald's at the NASA Ames Research Center.
They get it done from an abandoned MikkyD!!!

I won't bother pleading for Hollywood to make this movie. They already are. This is just too fantastic a story for them not to.
It's such a beautiful story, one might almost suppose it was set up on purpose like that. To increase the public perception of the individuals that do the brilliant stuff that, taken together, is NASA. Or get more kids interested in science and engineering. Whatever it is, such a vast (and, honestly, sublime) conspiracy would be the only thing that could make this story any better.
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Post by guitargeek » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:31 am

I'm a big fan of the work they do at McMoon's! Anybody else follow what they did with the old lunar tapes?

http://www.moonviews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGwyhc4g3q4[/media]

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Post by Bigshankhank » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:18 pm

Fucking jangleplatz sauce! Its alive!
http://www.space.com/26438-isee3-spacec ... fired.html
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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:26 am

The little probe that wouldn't die. And the space geeks who believed in it.
YES!
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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:14 am

I just remembered this, I know not why. Maybe I got a hankering for the sentimentality today.
But as I skim through this thread, sentimentality turned into proper sadness. :cry:

When they re-established contact with Izzy Three (which is why I've decided to call ISEE-3 from now on), they had to use a big antenna.
As in BIG antenna.

As in the Arecibo Observatory. It took only a 1,000 foot antenna, transmitting at only 1 MEGAWATT! :shock:

Now I also feel a little ashamed. I probably did think of Izzy once or twice since it happened. But not when it happened. I had forgotten about them, and what it took to contact them.

And that all of it is gone now. We've all seen enough video of the collapse.
The most recent media I could find is already a year old. This video illustrates the state of the cleanup as of a year ago.


Now, I'm worried we might really have lost our ability to talk to our brave little probe. Not just forgotten how to talk to it, but maybe lost it, proper.
When it collapsed, there was plenty of reportage about how the Arecibo was irreplaceable. Because the other giant dishes are really just radio telescopes, for observation. As mentioned, Arecibo had a Brobdingnagian transmitter, and talking to ancient probes, or any spacecraft, had not been its job.
No, its job was radar. It was a radar telescope. Other do radio astronomy, Arecibo did radar astronomy. And it appears that in that field, it was quite without peer.

So I now gotta find out what happened to Izzy over the past 8 years. I know I've thought about it a few times since, and back then, I'd sometimes check up on it. But haven't done so in too many years.
Damn. I'm just as awful as the people who had originally abandoned it.

Addendum:
Here's something about the engineering related to the collapse. Curiously, the cables failed where they should have been strongest.
Did some contractor cut some corners 60 years ago?
Or was the assembly not as suitable for the environment as originally believed, degrading in unexpected ways?
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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:05 am

So the FB page ISEE-3 Reboot has been dormant for six years. The last few posts were just a bunch of cute memes and cartoons.

The most recent post I could find that relates to working with Izzy was from October 14, 2014. Several months after the last contribution to this conversation. It reads:
On FB, ISEE3 Reboot Project wrote:We're still trying to secure time on a big dish to try and re-establish contact with ISEE-3. The main problem right now is that big dishes are all busy.
I fear that was the last of it.
After the post above, there were a few Tweets posted, and links to news coverage. This went on for about a year. And then.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wnxepy/ ... ace-hacker
On vice.com, Keith Cowing wrote:...Robert Farquhar...
The man who helped hijack a long-dormant spacecraft from an abandoned McDonalds has died at 83.
:cry:
First of all, Paul Giamatti wouldn't just be great casting because he's Paul Giamatti.
Look at the face of a god among engineers:
vice.com wrote:
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He hadn't just come up with the idea of contacting Izzy when it came by again.
He had been one of the duo who got Izzy busting out of their original orbit to go buzz the comet!
And it seems Izzy never left him - his original plan had been to
CAPTURE IZZY WITH THE SPACE SHUTTLE AND PRESENT THEM TO THE SMITHSONIAN!
He wanted to bring them home. Earth's loyal little probe, the probe that wouldn't die, the probe that wouldn't abandon us even when we told them to die. Bob wanted to bring them home.

Considering the other stuff he made happen during his illustrious carreer, I have no doubt he could have made it happen.

Consider his work as flight director for NEAR. Instead of a monolith, 2001 got the first space-probe soft-landing on an asteroid, on 433 Eros. Soft enough to do the science, too.
A probe that had never been designed to land! And he figured out how to soft-land it after NASA management had prohibited him from working on it!
He landed a spacecraft that wasn't designed to land, after the boss had said he shouldn't even work on that.
Take that, Hollywood!

...
No, I mean it. Please take that, Hollywood. Instead of horribly twisting and chopping up the live stories of musicians just so they can fit in your stale "musician biopic" formula, try something new. A biopic about the mad hacked of spacecraft!

Just look at this photo of McMoon - they even had the big tape-reel thingy! You like the big tape-reel thingy, Hollywood! And a jolly roger! You could have a Jonny Depp cameo as a drunk and confused fella wandering in to get a BigMac and fries!
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You know, if you make the movie, a bunch of movie reviewers are gonna complain McMoon's is just not believable if it looks like this!

RIP Bob.
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Re: Earth forgot how to talk to it's emissary UPDATE THEY DID IT

Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:16 am

While diving into Izzy and Bob's story, I also stumbled upon this article about a zombie-satellite that came back to life after five decades.
Five decades after it had failed on its original mission.
Which hadn't even been to do the science, nor the communications.
It had been a test vehicle, to trial the new and exciting technology called "satellite".

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/10/ ... ed-in-1967
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I dig these photos of satellite assembly in the 60s.
"Clean room? What? We wash our hands, what more do you want?!"
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Re: Earth forgot how to talk to it's emissary UPDATE THEY DID IT

Post by Bigshankhank » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:37 am

This is, to use the vernacular of today's youth, super neat.

Also re: clean rooms. One thing that always kills me in the classic film Terminator 2: Judgement Day is when we are 1st introduced to engineer Miles Bennett Dyson he and a lab assistant are tasked with retrieving "It" aka the microprocessor from the original T-800 unit recovered from the place where they press metal, and in norma street closes and holding a cup of fluid they walk right through a clean room environment.
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Re: Earth forgot how to talk to it's emissary UPDATE THEY DID IT

Post by DerGolgo » Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:54 am

Bigshankhank wrote:
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This is, to use the vernacular of today's youth, super neat.
I assume you're referring to the fella with the mandatory clipboard and oscilloscope working on that wee satellite?
Or to McMoon's, with the giant-tape-reel-thingy?

Because I cannot see much neat otherwise... or I'm too fucking old and dense to comprehend how the youth today use the word "neat".

It meant something else back when I was young and dammit, it still means that!!
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