BIKE PR0N FTW -- The Thread for Moto Pr0n

[motorpsycho67]

Well that's bullshit....

How come my photo didn't post?

[DerGolgo]

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Well that's bullshit....

How come my photo didn't post?

It needs the extension to work. .jpg, .jpeg, .png, .gif, something like that.

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[motorpsycho67]

It needs the extension to work. .jpg, .jpeg, .png, .gif, something like that.

Well, none of those worked.

I guess I need the secret code to use Flickr. Don't remember seeing that in the welcome packet...

[Jaeger]

Well, none of those worked.

I guess I need the secret code to use Flickr. Don't remember seeing that in the welcome packet...

Flickr is a pain in the nuts. I followed your link and grabbed this with a screenshot.

It's sexxeh as hell but my back and knees hurt just looking at it.

--Jaeger

[DerGolgo]

Well, none of those worked.

I guess I need the secret code to use Flickr. Don't remember seeing that in the welcome packet...

All those photo hosting sites are circle jerking with Facebook, Instagram, et al
Boards don't figure in, unfortunately.

If it's your own photo, or it's public domain, you can upload it here.
If it's under a CC license, you could probably do that, too, so long as you provide a link, attribution, etc., whatever the license requires.

[motorpsycho67]

If it's your own photo, or it's public domain, you can upload it here.
If it's under a CC license, you could probably do that, too, so long as you provide a link, attribution, etc., whatever the license requires.

Well, I'm just as confused as ever....

[DerGolgo]

Well, I'm just as confused as ever....

About copyright, licenses, and the public domain

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If it's your own photo, or it's public domain, you can upload it here.

If you took a photo, it's your intellectual property, and you can make as many copies as you like or don't, and do with it whatever.*
If it's in the public domain, you can make as many copies as you like or don't, and do with it whatever.*

*"whatever" not including using it to make untrue claims about entities (like a non-satirical claiming that the state of California is endorsing your emissions-defeat-teabags), or deeds that violate other laws.

Pro tip: Anything published by an entity or officer of the US federal government as part of their duties is automatically in the public domain, domestically. NASA may assert copyright over a photo of astronauts on the moon if I try and publish it on my non-fiction (claimed) book in which I claim NASA hired Walt Disney to fake the moon landing so as to make people believe the earth is flat and buy more teabags. But you lot, so long as you don't break no other laws, can do with that photo whatever.

The Public Domain's rodent problem

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In theory, any work will fall into the public domain after a certain number of years.
Over here, it's 70 years after the death of the author, for example.
Over yonder, because heaven forfend that someone make a funny about the rat, Disney has bought itself 95 years after first publication, or 120 years after creation, whichever passes first. Sonny Bono himself lent his name to this particular outrage (the 1998 "Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act").
Since Steamboat Willie, and hence its main character, Mickey Mouse, will hit the 95 year mark in 2023, I fully expected that Disney got that extended to "120 generations after any entity that ever claimed a copyright to anything ceases to exist", or "one galactic epoch after the continent on which the work was created has been fully subducted and reabsorbed into the earth's mantle", whichever passes last.
However, this time, the side of not extending copyrights beyond the heat death of the universe has some serious muscle - specifically, Google et al would prefer copyrights to end, finally, and they let their congressmen know it.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... ic-domain/
So we might will see Mickey Mouse furry-porn in 2024.

The Public Domain and derivative works

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However, take note that derivative works also get copyright protection.
Beethoven's music is in the public domain. Beethoven sheet-music published in 1891 is in the public domain. But Beethoven sheet music published last year isn't, because whoever arranged the notes on his computer screen to match Ludwig's composition, and did all the layout-work, typed "Symphony No. 9" into their computer one time, they hold a copyright to that publication, to their work.

The layout of the streets of London is in the public domain, since that sort of thing never was protected under copyright to begin with.
More or less any map of London you can buy or study, meanwhile, will have a few streets that just don't exist.
Because whoever created the map has the copyright to their creation, and to ensure that nobody cribs off of their work, put in little traps like that, which will let them prove in court that another map is a copy of their original work.

I hope you're not getting the idea that I'm tragically paranoid about copyright.
Not because I'm not, but I hold the copyright to that idea.

If it's under a CC license, you could probably do that, too, so long as you provide a link, attribution, etc., whatever the license requires.

If someone else took that photo, and it's from a commercial website like BikeExif, they might not appreciate if you make a copy. They may not even want to let you use it. The latter being the reason many commercial websites don't allow hotlinking images.
If you wanted to circumvent such anti-hotlinking measures, you'd have the options of saving the photo to your device and uploading it elsewhere, and not to Flickr, as it appears. Or you could take a screenshot and upload it to not-Flickr.

In either case, you would be making a copy without the approval of the copyright holder. Which, 9,999 out of 10,000, even if somebody notices, they probably wouldn't bother, since writing a cease and desist to some website hosted in Europe, and even just finding out what European copyright law to cite (yes, convoluted international legal situations have their upsides, too), is worth more than they can justify to protect their copyright there.

However, suppose you're some paranoid potato like a guy I know, you could try and find something that shows what you wish to illustrate with a photo, and that has been published under an appropriate Creative Commons (CC) license.
There are many, ranging from "it's public domain, but using a CC license makes me look cool" to "it's just as protected as under regular copyright, but using a CC license makes me look cool".

Common licenses are things like "BY", which means it's free and you can do whatever, so long as you attribute it to the creator, or "BY-NC-ND", which means you gotta attribute, you may not use it commercially, you may not create derivative works from it.
See hence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_ ... f_licenses


Image by Shaddim; original CC license symbols by Creative Commons

Like I did here, I posted an image published under CC-BY.
If the image or video or whatever you want to use it on Wikimedia Commons, the "More Details" page will have a "Licensing" section with explicit explanation of what you may do with the image, and under which conditions. Click the linked text under the image to see an example.

"Fair Use"
It's not a law, but a legal doctrine. That allows, for instance, using parts of a copyrighted work for purposes of critique or review. Without that, you would have to work out an individual license with the movie studio every single time you want to publish a review of the latest Disney movie, and use an image of the movie poster in your review. Which they wouldn't let you do if you intend to tell the world the latest Disney animation is once again full of negative representations of queer or trans people (aka many/most "Disney villains").

However, websites make their money from advertising, they need traffic.
So if an article with images is published, one might assume that it's fair to show one or two of the images when recommending that article. After all, one advertises their product, one directs traffic at them.
Which is why, unless any such website complains, I for one assume it is fair use to show off one or two images from a BikeExif article, so long as the link to that article is provided alongside.

[Bigshankhank]

I use imbb now https://imgbb.com/ very similar format to Photobucket but less fuckery. Works with regular [img] links and like such as.

[motorpsycho67]

Okay, let's try this again...


My new wheels


Edit: Relax.... it'll be motorcycle colored shortly.

[motorpsycho67]

[Bigshankhank]

Can't fool me Motorpsycho, that's not the same bike at all.

[DerGolgo]

Can't fool me Motorpsycho, that's not the same bike at all.

I concur.
However, now I'm mulling over an air-cooled Kawasaki mill in a VFR chassis.
I wouldn't rip off all the plastic, but maybe rip it off in places, to make it look like that Kawa mill kicked its way into the bike...

Such a transplant would make little sense, unless one was planning on transplanting the viffer mill into a Kawa frame, and doing something with the leftovers.
But since when do bikes have to make sense?

[red]

I don't understand the fat front knobby tire, but i love this ratty old monster.

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[DerGolgo]

I don't understand the fat front knobby tire, but i love this ratty old monster.

I wouldn't be surprised if the helmet has a little extra cavity for the hipster man bun.
The knobbly may well have been chosen because that looks best when someone with an angle grinder makes a shower of sparks behind it. Because that's how you biker.

[Jaeger]

This one must not go unremarked:

https://www.bikeexif.com/bmw-r80-cafe-r ... otorcycles







She is, how you say, le Supah Sexxah?

Made by these guys: https://www.intothewyld.com/cafe-racers

--Jaeger

[red]

dear gods..... it's so svelt.

[0l4fderstout]

https://www.rideapart.com/news/523386/h ... cub-125-x/

[Jaeger]

Buh...

Crighton CR700W Reboots the 220hp Rotary for the Track

...This is because the Crighton CR700W is the only rotary engine powered motorcycles available on the market, and the headline features are certainly worth talking about.

Try this on: the 690cc twin-rotor engine produces 220hp and 105 lbs•ft torque, while being wrapped up in a package that weighs only 285 lbs dry (129.5 kg).

For fun trivia, the engine weighs a mere 53 lbs, and when you add the gearbox to it, that figure bumps to only 95 lbs. That’s Moto3 weights with SBK power figures.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ ... otorcycle/

Buh...



--Jaeger

[DerGolgo]

Where does the flux capacitor go?

[red]

Check out this wee little scoot! Looks like they're cheap enough for you big guys to get one for each foot!

https://jalopnik.com/what-do-you-want-t ... 1848069461

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[problemaddict]

Royal Enfield does a bike build off, apparently. This is one of this year's build. Pretty sick!

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https://www.advrider.com/start-with-a-royal-enfield/

[problemaddict]

Video Pron:

Vespa vs BMW M3

[DerGolgo]

I think some iteration of Top Gear (not sure if it was the three idiots) did a race between some fancy cars and superbikes. Around the track, with the turns and things, advantage cars. Not sure if they had included the very unslippery Ariel Atom, but I'm sure youtube will tell anyone who wishes to know.

The scoot's main advantage is low weight, isn't it. So with the same power/weight ratio, that's undone already.
The slippery cage, and its rubbers' contact patches that are a multiple of that wee scoot rear wheel only serve to illustrate that power/weight on its own does not the faster vehicle make.

At uni, I had many classmates who, unlike me, had not been conscientious objectors. When conscripted, they had served in the Bundeswehr. And a few had been on panzers.
A story I heard from more than one guy: sometimes. On some lonely road near a Bundeswehr training area, when a Leopard 2 had to stop at a stoplight - next to some riced out, modded up, fast and furious joker who'd make like to challenge the Leo for a drag race, because haha. Or just anybody in a BMW 3.
Sometimes, when that happened, panzercommander would tell his driver. Smoke him.

Just in power to weight ratio, even some tiny econobox, even the lethally underpowered shitbox Fiesta I once tooled around in, has a Leo 2 beat. By a significant margin. I just mathed, and a Leopard 2A6 got 0.024 PS/kilogram, compared to 0.031 PS/kg that shitbox had, guesstimately lowballing remaining power after 15 years of unlubricated abuse had just erased the piston rings, and with my gigantic mass added in.
The contact patch under a Leopard 2 isn't so much "bigger" than under any kind of car. It's bigger than some entire cars, period.
And while a car's transmission is designed for some fuel economy, and being able to go on the Autobahn, and not being so difficult to use, not forcing drivers to shift all the time, and being cheap to make, please...
The transmission on an MBT is designed to fucking move before an incoming shell strikes, and on any random terrain, not just level asphalt. And because anything else would be somewhere between futility and suicide, that tank tranny must take abuse like it's afternoon tea and just keep on chugging without complaint. Sure, training may include making the driver not grind gears, not just ram in a lower gear and overrev everything, whatever. The manual may specify how to monitor and maintain correct fluid levels in the tranny. No plan survives first contact with the enemy. But a transmission must.

Up to about 50 kph, no one ever beat the tank.

Or so I was told, with minor variation, by different people if memory serves.
Of course, that might have been just soldier's tales, apocrypha passed on from one generation of tanker to the next over a glass of beer, at best relating to a single incident with an old and battered car, way overloaded, underpowered when new, a long first gear, in the rain, and with a driver who didn't really know what he was doing.

But just considering it based on tank technology.
The giant sprocket shoving the track by physically intersecting it, pretty much shoving its own road along on top of whatever surface. Rather than just friction between rubber and asphalt. And considering that, given the task of designing a 40+ mph tank, I can't imagine potato engineers and potato soldiers, men being men being potatoes, wouldn't have found it vitally important to make that beast competitive on the road.
Heck. It would even make sense militarily. Armies being designed for the last war is a well known problem. Acceleration that's good enough for a tank facing present day weapons might not be so when the next generation of whatever comes around, or the other guys adopt a new doctrine or whatever. Not unlike many military vehicles are designed to be a bit bigger than they absolutely have to be, so that they have expansion space for equipment nobody has even invented yet. Future proofing is the fashionable term I believe. A fierce launch off of the line might have appeared as such, when it wouldn't take away anything else.
Considering all this, the entire scenario is plausible.

[problemaddict]

I just checked YouTube thinking that this exact scenario must have been recreated for the clicks & lulz & propaganda. I got really excited when I saw this video title! Leopard 2 vs 911, but alas, they don't drag race them

[DerGolgo]

I just checked YouTube thinking that this exact scenario must have been recreated for the clicks & lulz & propaganda. I got really excited when I saw this video title! Leopard 2 vs 911, but alas, they don't drag race them

I strongly suspect that they may have cracked down on such shenanigans before everyone had a camera in their pocket all the time.

Even with the appropriate potato terminology in the search field, or what of it I could think of (never was part of the cager racer scene myself), the best I could find was a drag race of a Leo 2 vs. a T72. Tank on tank on sand is no real substitute though, is it.

Tank on tank. Meh.

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Regarding the Leo 2's acceleration on asphalt: braking is, in physics terms, acceleration.
I, though, would not have been as brave as the people in this video. They are obviously happy their trust wasn't misplaced, so...

Yikes!

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Widening search parameters, I found:
A tractor pull, specifically a direct pulling contest between a ridiculous tractor and an ancient "Jaguar" (tank destroyers that go back to this bugger, a contemporary of but distinct from the old Leopard 1).

Pull baby pull!

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I had to turn the sound of on this one. The announcer has a disturbing bavarian accent.

And
...an international tank-biathlon event held in India? Semi-finals?
I think those are all the same type tank, which would make sense. But that only narrows it down to T-72 or T-90.

Tank sports means sports tanks!!

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I can't understand a word, not really. But I think the commentator mentions Kazakhstan, and I've spotted an Indian flag on the blue tank.

[problemaddict]

Kazakhstan, India, Belarus & Serbia if I understood correctly. And that's all I understood...

[Jaeger]

Oh, honey...

As factory supermotos go, you could do a lot worse than the KTM 690 SMC R. Featuring a 72 hp single packed into a taut 324 lbs package with sharp handling, it’s a bike made for unadulterated hooliganism.

The owner of this particular 2019-model 690 supermoto loved most things about it, save for one big gripe: it carries more plastic than a Tupperware salesperson. So he delivered it to the father and son team of Michael and Allen Posenauer, at AMP Motorcycles in Offenbach, Germany. Their task was to individualize it by ditching all the plastic bits, without sacrificing an iota of ridability.

LINK TO FULL STORY: https://www.bikeexif.com/ktm-690-smc

I think I need a towel.

--Jaeger

[problemaddict]

Tough looking Brick with some interesting details:

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https://www.bikebound.com/2022/09/12/top-gun/

[DerGolgo]

This thread has been so quiet, I actually looked in the wrong forum for it.
And then in another wrong forum.

Fuck the polizei.
But LOVE THAT BEEMER!

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Riding this in traffic? Only with a gigantic orange flag mounted on your back.
But otherwise... come on. You know you like it.

[Bigshankhank]

I for one am a fan of the DeutscheGrom