motorpsycho67 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:22 am
From what I've read, the virus can't survive outside the body for more than three hours.
careful there. According to reports here, coronaviruses can remain active/infectious on inanimate surfaces for up to nine days
. It may decompose or whatever it does to no longer be a threat within a few hours. But that's the best case scenario.
I've seen a number of sources state up to 9 days
On medicalnewstoday.com, Tim Newman wrote:Human coronaviruses can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces at room temperature for up to 9 days. At a temperature of 30°C [86°F] or more, the duration of persistence is shorter.
Our ministry of health has put out an FAQ, in which they cite research from the Robert-Koch-Institute that apparently demonstrated the novel coronavirus to remain active on plastic and glass surfaces for up to six days.
I'm gonna go with 10 days myself, to have a reasonable safety margin.
The two-week quarantine recommendation that seems to be going around makes sense, in that a reservoir of virus on inanimate objects would have to be taken into consideration.
This is unprecedented for her. She'd give a new-year's address. But everything else would be funneled through her press office.
So this is basically the most dramatic event during her tenure.
During her speech, she said "Since the reunification, no, since the second world war, there has been no challenge to our country in which solidarity and cooperation were so important."
I hate it when speechwriters make fake spontaneity like that "correction". But she's right. And what she said sounded sound, slowing the spread of the disease, flattening the curve, to make sure the healthcare sector won't be overwhelmed. Public life to be reduced to a minimum.
"The state will continue... we want to maintain as much economical activity as possible."
She lists a bunch of concrete steps. Critically, she describes that economic activity must take a backseat to the epidemic-slowing measures.
The language she uses there. "We want to..."
That's usually the sort of language she, or her press office, or her party, will use when they want to make greenies or civil-rights groups go away. "Yes, we want to reduce emissions, yes we want to make VW do the right thing..."
Note: she is using that wishy-washy fuck-off-plebs sort of language to describe how the government will try and preserve economic activity and assist the private sector.
She is basically declaring that the private sector can go fuck itself while the crisis persists.
She also talks a lot about how in a democracy, freedom of movement is vital, may not be restricted without dire need, and how she herself had so long fought for it (note: before the communist east german government began to implode, she was a functionary in the communist party youth organization (membership mandatory for kids... and the only reason she was in east germany in the first place was that her parents had fled there from the decadent west in the 1950s)).
The fact that she talks about freedom of movement in a democracy, besides public life, besides people not meeting friends or seeing loved ones. Her explicit declaration that such restrictions cannot be done in a democracy except for very dramatic reasons.
She is basically paving the way for/telegraphing a curfew, or suchlike measures.
The fact that she said these things, and not just through a press-release but in person, on camera, is what makes this terrifying. That is not the usual Merkel (nicknamed "Mutti"="mummy", the way that an adult would use the diminutive).
This is unprecedented crisis mode. I haven't been this apprehensive since the second plane hit the tower.
I wanted to buy Schnitzel for days now, but kept forgetting, remembering only when I had already paid.
I mean, FFS. I'm potato. Schnitzel is basically my life partner!
Now, though, my apartment stinks like I tried distilling moonshine, and moonshine specifically formulated to make people go blind, and I've got the essentials. Potatoes, Schnitzel, and Pizza. Also plenty of soft-drinks and some junk food. But really, the Potatoes are what matters, the rest is just a bonus. I could eat well for a week or two with what I got here. With my recent experience in just not eating for days on end, I can do without shopping for a month.
Grocery store was oddly non-chaotic. Staff were shoving new goods on shelves in partly plundered areas.
The TP and paper-towel section, meanwhile, is now occupied by bottled water and rationed diapers. Not enough of either to properly fill the shelves, though.
Folding@Home has finally begun making use of my tactical nuclear GPU. And it's processing stuff for a Coronavirus related project, too!
According to the description, the project has maximum priority and must
be executed on... the CPU.
I give up. I'll just let it do whatever.
When novel Coronavirus started hitting the news, and after Beau of the Fifth recommending stocking up while stuff is still available, I had ordered a box of fife FFP3 respirators, at a pre-pandemic price. Of these, by now, I gave two to my mum (by post, of course), and one to a friend, who passed it on to his own mum.
I had also bought some household disinfectant, spray and wipes, and put off getting a few brown bottles of isopropyl from my usual source, my pharmacy. Where they have an actual barrel of the stuff, for disinfectant use. When I finally inquired about it, they couldn't even get any for pharmacy-specific use, the wholesalers were out.
So I ordered isopropyl at the 100% pandemic markup from several different profiteers (redundancy, for "lost in transit" scenarios). Of the first shipment, I sent two bottles straight on to my mum, because she's a total miser with cleaning agents, and I have to somehow convince her she should use the stuff liberally.
And I ordered five more FFP3 respirators. At 200% pandemic markup.
Yes, respirators should be left for the people who need them, medical professionals or the immunocompromised. My own immune system has acted unpredictably at times in the past, I'm on a cereal bowl worth of daily pills that might have gawd knows what interactions, and I doubt medical professionals shop on ebay.
The final shipment of isopropyl had been scheduled for next week, while the respirators might arrive at any time between the last week of March and mid-April.
Well, if you don't prepare, you pay extra for waiting longer, still. That's the breaks, innit.
Except that it turns out profiteers have brilliant fulfillment processes. Both the isopropyl and the respirators arrived today (and while I wasn't at the grocery store, too).
So I've got enough to eat and drink, and to vape. If I must go out, or admit anything from the outside into my fortress of solitude, I'm (almost) all set for respirators and disinfectant. I'm slightly nervous about textiles. My jacket and pants in particular, since those come in contact with the seat on a bus, or with my wallet which, in turn, I must touch with unclean hands to pay for stuff. Double-gloved hands, but that only keeps my paws clean, not the wallet.
So right now, I'm trying to treat my outside threads, and wallet and keys, as contaminated, and trying to wear stuff that I haven't touched in more than 10 days.
Regarding double gloving: curiously, the XL sized latex gloves I got are no problem on my skin, I don't have to wear pall-bearer gloves underneath like I had to when I was in the service. Black nitril gloves are fine, too. Blue vinyl gloves I got a box of, meanwhile, they give me the red paws.
So if I want to use them vinyl gloves, I need a barrier to my skin in any case. So when I double-glove, it's also because of my allergies, and I can hence look down on and condemn the ignoramuses who touch stuff with their bare hands.
Yes, I'm not creating a threat by relying entirely on the gloves to do some magic, I still washing my paws for 40 seconds after I take the gloves off (20 seconds lather, 20 seconds rinse, energetic rubbing throughout), and after touching as-yet non-decontaminated objects.
As of today, March 19 2020, there are 13,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Germany, and 31 deaths.
While the response is better than I had expected, it's not really as good as it could be. Our health minister is using his authority to ensure that poor people will find it difficult to get tested, so there may be a larger number of infected/infecting individuals who do not fit the specific criteria which, according to our asshole health minister, are necessary to justify free testing.
Silver lining: Friedrich Merz, the most neoliberal, most "conservative", most poor- and migrant-hating jackass in the top tier of that health-minister's party, the guy so far on the right, anybody to his right has quit the conservative party and joined the fascists. That jackass has been diagnosed with COVID-19.
I don't wish him to die, he's not important enough for that emotional commitment.
But DANG, conservative party. Karma is a bitch, isn't it.
If there were absolutely anything to be afraid of, don't you think I would have worn pants?
I said I have a big stick.