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Heated gloves - glove heating?

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Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:22 pm

So, another doctor's appointment. You know it's serious if you've got something visible, but the doc doesn't even mention "lack of exercise" or "nutrition". I got a whole new syndrome. Yay. :x
Well, I maybe have a new syndrome.
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Symptoms seem to fit. But it's outta my neurologist's bailiwick (which, frankly, is ridiculous, the man is the single most competent medicine man I've dealt with yet - he correctly diagnosed a B12 deficiency by correlating two dozen other bits of lab work, where vitamin D was the only vitamin tested for also defficient).
Official verdict may of course only be made by the appropriate specialist. I'm actually surprised I was able to get an appointment as early as late January. Again. Yay. :/

Until then, I gotta keep my paw warm. Just the right one, the left seems to be sufficiently heated by holding on to my vapes. Or may not have the syndrome at all, for that matter.
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First attempt: IR lamp. Like, the kind you'd hang over a terrarium. Black chunk of ceramic, with a very visible heating coil on the surface.
Before I could make it work right, I paid the price of placing something damn hot right over my right hand. The price being due on account of me being blind on the right side. I'm not sure what degree burn they are, but it's the kind where I didn't get blisters - on account of the skin having instantly baked itself onto the surface of the thing. An improvised lampshade went and melted, ruining the heating bulb, too, so I'm gonna put a pin in that for now.

On the plus side, those things are available from quality brands, and I'm pretty sure that, sans melting lampshade, they will last longer than gray-market import Ukrainian incandescent lamps. Which, in my experience, can last a whole day, unlike new-old-stock Chinese ones.
Such an IR "lamp" as a heat source, all I'd need are high-temperature resistant, yet powerful, LEDs. Long term project.
Constantly running to the microwave to heat up a grain pillow, and then making do without my right hand for however long, is not a good long-term solution.

What I need are heated gloves. Heated gloves that will let me operate my mouse, tiny buttons and all. I've tried what are basically knit mittens, all glove except for the fingertips, with a little USB driven heating pad on the back of the hand.
Cheap, but not even worth that much.

So, my next idea is to get a heating element, with heating for the fingers, and somehow fiddle this into a tight-fitting, yet flexible, dishwashing sort of glove.
I'm looking at this kind of heating device.
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Some listings I've seen, they are advertised for DIY heated gloves - to just be integrated into other gloves, to be worn with those gloves.
Other listings suggest the idea is to stuff these into the respective gloves and pre-heat those before only the gloves are worn, sans heating element.
"3 speed" control seems to be common.

Does anyone have experience with this sort of device?
Or any other idea how I can heat my mouse-paw while retaining the ability to operate fiddly buttons?

EDIT: while I had pondered a very light and flexible, very small electric blanket, that idea had not satisfied. But I just realized that there might be heated mousepads and found something that's kinda a heated sleeve that encloses mouse and hand. I've been very, very used to my existing mousepad for a good decade now, so that's no easy fix, either. But since those above-mentioned glove thingies would all not ship before January, I may give those a try.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:12 pm

Actually, after my headmind finally brained it right, I'm just getting an electric foot-warmer that I can shove my existing mousepad etc into.

Still would be interesting to know which, if any, experiences anyone has had with the glove-heaters.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by motorpsycho67 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:48 am

How about Hot Hands?

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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:00 am

motorpsycho67 wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:48 am
How about Hot Hands?

By their disposable nature, they wouldn't have me constantly running to the microwave, like grain pillows do.
However, stuffing those into gloves doesn't seem very practical. For one, gloves that are thin and tight enough to let me use the mouse or type won't hold a lot of heat, and I'd have to shove these things all the way up the fingers of the gloves. Also would need constant replenishment.

Thanks for the recommendation, but those don't seem ideal.

Tested and found wanting since the OP have been
- electrically heated knitted mitts
- electric footwarmer as a enclosure for mousepad and mouse
- very small electric blanket

Presently waiting on delivery of this fella:
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Chosen not because there's a convenient outlet for it to dangle from, but for its dimensions. Will entail some fettlin' to set up.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by Jaeger » Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:22 am

For what it's worth: I picked up some polar-fleece fingerless gloves and chopped them down so the fingers are very short. Doing so allows me to wear them while typing, and they're easily enough to keep my fingers warm here in my little basement office.
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It's a lo-tech solution but it's fairly cheap and easy.

Admittedly, it doesn't put any more heat into the system but they're pretty damn effective at retaining what heat is there.

I don't see precisely the ones I have, but these are the same maker and really really close:


All it takes is a pair of scissors and some thread to re-stitch the seams. :mrgreen:

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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:56 pm

Thanks, but I doubt such would do me any good. I tried electrically heated mitts. Which were fairly thick mitts, fingers free, specifically advertised to keep the hand warm while typing.
Even with the anemic heating-element, they were no help.

The problem isn't just that my fingers aren't getting enough body heat from the bloodflow. I've been checked over and out for bloodflow issues, and there are non. The problem is when cold gets at my fingers from the outside.

If those things I ordered don't work right or, which with my bear paws is a little more likely, are too small, I'm considering buying some really large electrically heated motorcycle gloves. Where, if I can find such, all the electrickery is on the back of the hand side. I should then be able to cut the seams, separate the upper, heated side from the lower side.
Not sure what the next step would be, but I'm thinking something along the lines of flexible textile-glue and a simple household cleaning glove.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:03 pm

Actually testing a household glove, not yet heated, has revealed that it's not as suitable for the purpose as I had hoped.

I guess I'm back on lamps.

This time, though, I know not to get one that will give me nth degree burns when I try to reach for my pill minder (also, I've relocated my pill minder, but I shall not let such measures entice me to become delinquent in my vigilance!).
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:17 pm

So DHL notifies me that a package I hadn't expected had been delivered to my kind neighbor, Mr./Mrs. Letterbox.

To my surprise, it was actually all the way in there and not stolen and, to my greater surprise, held the glove-heaters I hadn't expected for another week, minimum.

To my great surprise, they are not, as I had feared, sized for tiny hands.
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The white bits sticking out are the actual fingers of the glove-warmer.

They are replacing the... prototype of an arrangement I had cobbled together out of a space-heater and things.
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See the ragged edge on the right? That's where my hand goes in, mouse inside, warm air directed by the cardboard. Necessary, because all the fucking space heaters will only have a room-temperature thermostat. That is, the thermostat only measures the room temperature. They either blow maximum-heat, or don't blow at all.
Also, this one is broken, the fan has crapped itself after less than a week. FFS.


Those green gloves are definitely too restricting, even with the cut-off tips rolled back. I tried a latex glove earlier, but I'm not sure it's even possible. But I will probably try again.

While blowing warm air on my hands seems to be the best solution so far, no matter where I looked, I couldn't find an apparatus that would just deliver airflow at a temperature of my choosing. I've even looked at fingernail-drying-solutions, ffs.

Right now I'm actually wondering about redirecting the exhaust air of my water-cooled computer behemoth.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:23 pm

So, after some trying out, I find I can kinda type.
But it's not really warm warm. Particularly the fingertips.
At maximum setting, it's supposed to reach 60°C. It surely does not. The USB power supply probably inherently insufficient. May have to try stuffing both hands into the single glove.
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Post by DerGolgo » Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:25 am

So I've been able to fuddle one of those things into a latex glove.
Unfortunately, the effect is further lessened, compared to the sturdier glove. I can type better, but even when I double-glove to press it to my skin better, there is barely any heating effect.

Dang.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:40 pm

Okay, this arrived today, and it seems to do the trick.
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Whoever designed this was, on the one hand, an upstanding fella, someone I can respect and would like to do business with.
They are also a total numpty.

Apart from the arm, it's metal. And I mean metal. Whatever sheet metal this shape was punched from, you could probably make wheels for motor vehicles from. With thick, thick enamel paint. Like they don't make shit like that any more.
I could use the head of this lamp to smash up the commodity funiture-store metal anglepoise lamps I have. And if I tried, really tried really hard. I might just scratch the enamel paint of this beast. I haven't seen consumer products with this kind of workmanship outside of stuff my parents or
even my grandparents had acquired before the moon landing.

However, the designer of this thing also put all the weight in the head and failed to put a lump of dumb metal in the base.
To keep it oriented towards my hand without toppling over, I had to weigh it down with my Curiously Shaped Lump of Steel of Uncertain Origin. It usually props open my window in summer, so now it's got year round occupation.

It wasn't cheap, and I could probably have fabricobbled a cheaper alternative.
But honestly? Worth it. Literally. The head is not clipped together from parts intended to never be disassembled again - but by a pair of hex nuts.
Like, shit so solidly made, you probably would never have to repair it - but if you did, you actually could.
Seriously, they don't make shit this way any longer!

When people aim these red-lights straight at their face, they wear those little half-an-olive protective things. I'm not sure exactly what the risk is, but I've duct-taped a piece of cardboard to the lampshade to avoid any direct light getting at what is left of my eyes.

I also ordered some arthritis-mitts, and will have to hunt them down tomorrow, since Amazon wouldn't tell me just which neighbor accepted the delivery. I'm hoping the combination of the red light and those mitts will let me maintain my afflicted hand at a steady temperature.
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Re: Heated gloves - glove heating?

Post by DerGolgo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:37 am

The kindly neighbor who accepted delivery of my mitts was good old reliable Mr. or Mrs. Letterbox.
Turns out I can barely squeeze my paws in, and the stitching is pressed in so hard, I had to turn them inside out. Still too uncomfortable. Grr.
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