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Post by spidergirl1nonly » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:12 pm

Well....
Happy frickin' holidays to me.
Let me tell you a story:
(Well, it's not so much a story as it is actually fact; it did, in fact, happen to me)!

Up until this past MOnday, I was co-habitating rather peacefully with a friend of mine. He is from Peru. On Saturday, his mother called him from DIA and said, "I'm here! Come and get me."
Which on the surface looks all fine and dandy; except for Mariano (the room mate) had told his mother previously (who is a diagnosed Paranoid Schizo) that she was not welcome in his household. Well, I suppose the PS decided that she would forget that tidbit, and came on over to the US anyway.
Well, Saturday and Sunday were just fine, but Monday once Mariano goes to work, the psycho comes after me right in front of my child; fists flying and screaming at the top of her lungs. (Some religious things were mentioned; not really sure, I couldn't understand it all cuz half of it was in Spanish). So, I decide that I am not going to allow myself to subject my daughter to such ugliness and I leave.
Could I have stayed? Yes. Should I have? Probably not, for the safety of my daughter.
So, now, just 10 days before this lovely holiday some call Christmas, my daughter and I are out on the streets.
No, I don't have any rights, cuz I am not on the lease. I am only listed as a 'non-leasing resident'.
So, I take my daughter over to her father's house because it is his week to have her; and now I am being told that I cannot qualify for any shelter space because I am not a 'family'. Utter ridiculousness. I have been turned away at every single shelter because they take families first and then fill up the remaining space with the people left over. So, my chances of getting into a shelter tonight is slim to none.

I know this is kinda short notice and I have exhausted every single resource that I have; so now I am humbling myself, cuz I have run out of options.
Is there anyone out there that can suggest anything? If so, please feel free to call me @: 720.338.1847. Thanks for your thoughts! (I can only access the internet at the library and I will be leaving soon).

-Charlotte


Don't look now but there's another rocky road..
But 2day I'm gonna face it, yeah, cuz I'm sick of dealin' any other way
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Post by Ban Guzzi » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:39 am

...no family, no friends other than mostly strangers on the internet? Howza bout Vance? He seems helpful and in your area...
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well...

Post by schimschone » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:38 am

the questions i have are already asked... so...
good luck and all.

:/

ps. i should also thankyou for being one of those many parents whom are willing to trade your personal dignity in exchange for a lifetime of therepy for your child...
... we always apreciate the work :)

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Post by spidergirl1nonly » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:39 am

schimschone wrote:
ps. i should also thankyou for being one of those many parents whom are willing to trade your personal dignity in exchange for a lifetime of therepy for your child...
... we always apreciate the work :)
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
I removed my child from a potentially dangerous situation, and put her safely in her father's possession temporarily. Should I have kept her in a dangerous situation? No. I did what I did so that she would not have to witness these violent things any longer. Damn, man, that's a little harsh, don't you think? Imagine what might have happened if this person decided to go crazy and go after my daughter? (Worst case scenario; but not entirely out of the realm of possibility). How much therapy do you think that would take to fix? I did what I did for my daughter more than for myself.

Oh and to answer the question about the non-leasing resident thing; Mariano has been 'coerced' into changing the name on the lease to his mother's. (I suppose she is very influential...errr...I mean manipulative). I guess that they don't have to make sure the change is okay with me since I am not on the lease. *shrug*

And yes, I have gotten to the point of exhausting the few resources that I have and I know it is idiotic, but I decided to ask you guys that I had met previously for advice. I didn't really like the idea of taking this route, but I have tried everything else. It is ridiculous, I know, but deperate times call for desperate measures!

Well, thanks everyone for the advice and concern. I appreciate it greatly!
-Charlotte
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But 2day I'm gonna face it, yeah, cuz I'm sick of dealin' any other way
Nobody said the race was fair but I'm gonna keep runnin' just the same!
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Post by badi » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:20 pm

Well, some cavaliers you are...
Can't somebody finally please come forward and offer that girl a place to crash for as long as it takes to straighten the situation out?
I would consider it my conspirative duty to do so but I'm a bit out of town.
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Post by schimschone » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:35 am

spidergirl1nonly wrote:
schimschone wrote:
And yes, I have gotten to the point of exhausting the few resources that I have and I know it is idiotic, but I decided to ask you guys that I had met previously for advice. I didn't really like the idea of taking this route, but I have tried everything else. It is ridiculous, I know, but deperate times call for desperate measures!

-Charlotte
heres my stance...

i said what needs to be said...

and now for round two...

ding...ding...ding

... i will first disrupt your enabling please with a series of prescripted questions, meant to create cognitive disodence..:

how often do you find your life consumed by this kind of darma..?
(sorry drama... but darma works... :D )

at what point do you say to yourself..?
"my child requires stability... thus i should insure stability by
participating in my life like a grown up... i should sign leases,
not live with shady people, and create contingency plans for
moments like this."

could your lack of current options be related to how often these dramatic events happen in your life..?

and finaly... at what point do you get bored with the drama..?

so listen up kid, rabi rabid got a lesson plan...

its time to grow up...
you got a kid...
and that child is the closest thing to divinity youll ever see...

people are going to help you... again... but you dont deserve it

make things better... suck it up... & stop whining

and remember... you dont deserve it

ps - dont post to a forum entitled "buggery 101: A forum for
exchanging rude psychological abuse" and bitch about the
results

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Post by Ban Guzzi » Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:47 am

I bow to schimschone...You said what myself and more than a few who won't post are feeling but weren't able to express as nicely.

Thank you.
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Post by DerGolgo » Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:54 am

Hm......Schimschone, do you always jump into the middle of people's lives and make unfounded assumptions about them even though you never met them?
I don't know Spidergirl, and hence I don't dare assuming that she is immature, that her life is unstable, etc.
From your post, I deduce that you seem to be somewhat intollerant towards any form of lifestyle that does not conform to your own.
You probably vote conservative, you have no empathy for the poor or homeless, you think war is just a legitimate continuation of politics with other means and you think anyone whose opinion on politics differs from your own should be thrown into shackles for some forced labour. You are extremely protective of your own privacy yet think that more government spying on the people is a good thing. You are sad when you hear about the destruction of the rain forrest yet you own mahogany furniture. You find it ridiculous that tap water is sold in plastic bottles yet you buy the same stuff at the supermarket. You are a hypocrit. About right?
Maybe I am, maybe I am not, I cannot really make such assumptions because I don't know you, yet you do.
Spidergirl is in a major personal crisis and you take the opportunity to feed your own ego on your own subjectively imagined superiority over her.
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Post by Ban Guzzi » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:18 am

DerGolgo: Drama is what you make it. SpG1 is drama. She has other alternantives and if not, frankly, I don't care.
Ya got into the situation, suck it up and get out. Elsewhere on the board is a place for people to send money to help her get her own place. Its a good thing because everyone needs outside help every now and then... This board and the good people on it have helped Drama Queens before with money and will again, Im sure. While it offends your value system, some of us HAVE met this girl and have decided to NOT help based on what we saw and/or feel.
I don't have to like a person to help them out. I also don't need any more reason to NOT help out than when I feel a person is only going to repeat the same mistake and my help is enabling, not consrtuctive.

the important thing to remember...there is NO obligation to anyone except for what we make ourselves. I choose NO obligation on this subject.
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Post by DerGolgo » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:07 am

Yeah, well, you know her, so you are entitled to that opinion.
Schimschone's post read like he doesn't know her personally and hence his writings kinds pissed me off. Not because I know her and have any personal opinion of her, but because people who judge other people based solely on little to none information and without any background knowledge piss me off in general.
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I said I have a big stick.

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Post by Ban Guzzi » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:27 am

...its all subjective. No offence taken and as for schimschones post, it just rang true to me as how I look at things.
And I don't KNOW SpG1, just working from my impression of her. I do hope things work out for her, I just have no interest personal or otherwise. I don't wish bad on people, genrally... :mrgreen: :evil:

the first clue that schimshone is opinionated was the "rabid rabbi" thing...
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Post by badi » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:27 pm

Guys, c'mon, do you really feel it's necessary to know somebody to help him out? Maybe SpG1 is a stupid bitch, maybe she's doing the same mistakes that get her into trouble over and over again, maybe she's not grown up enough to handle a bad situation or to raise a child in a secure environment, maybe ... SO WHAT? She's in trouble right now, that's all one needs to know in order to offer some help. Help doesn't automatically mean giving money or a place to live, help could also be to take her aside and talk some sense into her.
I too don't know SpG1 personally, how could I? But some of the honored board members do, so all I did was wondering about so little response.
After all, like the rabid Rabbi wrote, this is the place for let's say "harsh words" and harsh words have proven to be quite helpful sometimes!

Some harsh but helpful hints for her could sound like this (please consider that I don't know her):
- Stop whining
- Get over it
- Grow up and act like it
- Never again move in with somebody you don't really know
- If you rent some place make sure your name's on the lease
- For once, don't follow your instincts/emotions but use your friggin' brains
- You need money? A place to crash? Here you are! But only under the condition that you don't fuck up your life again! Otherwise you'll get your sorry (little/fat/lazy) ass kicked to the moon and back!!!

If you guys think you know her and she's like that why didn't anyone come up at least with help like this?
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Post by DerGolgo » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:48 pm

badi wrote:Guys, c'mon, do you really feel it's necessary to know somebody to help him out? Maybe SpG1 is a stupid bitch, maybe she's doing the same mistakes that get her into trouble over and over again, maybe she's not grown up enough to handle a bad situation or to raise a child in a secure environment, maybe ... SO WHAT? She's in trouble right now, that's all one needs to know in order to offer some help. Help doesn't automatically mean giving money or a place to live, help could also be to take her aside and talk some sense into her.
I too don't know SpG1 personally, how could I? But some of the honored board members do, so all I did was wondering about so little response.
After all, like the rabid Rabbi wrote, this is the place for let's say "harsh words" and harsh words have proven to be quite helpful sometimes!

Some harsh but helpful hints for her could sound like this (please consider that I don't know her):
- Stop whining
- Get over it
- Grow up and act like it
- Never again move in with somebody you don't really know
- If you rent some place make sure your name's on the lease
- For once, don't follow your instincts/emotions but use your friggin' brains
- You need money? A place to crash? Here you are! But only under the condition that you don't fuck up your life again! Otherwise you'll get your sorry (little/fat/lazy) ass kicked to the moon and back!!!

If you guys think you know her and she's like that why didn't anyone come up at least with help like this?
I agree.
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hey DerGolgo...

Post by schimschone » Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:18 pm

i can see by your post why you dont make peemptive conclusions about folks... your bad at it...
and in general, im not...

heres the low down...

i dont know the girl, and i dont need to...
for every damsel in distress outthere...
theres a sucker on a horse willing to fight a dragon...
and dragons are mythological creatures kid...
so dont be a chump...

im sorry shes suffering, but she created this situation...
and by the ease by which she posts her request on a board meant for motorcycles, shows where her life is at...
and the problom is, that it isnt her life... its her kids

so what..?
shes gonna move in with another strange guy..?
reup the drama pool..?
put the kid at risk..?

i could give you the stats of domestic violence against women and their childeren in relation to unrelated males...
or even the molestation rates...

oh sorry did i make you uncomfortable..?

well im sorry to intersect your feelings of self-serving chivalry with a healthy dose of reality... but its what i do...

you want to help... go to a womens shelter...
vote for reprisentitives who support viable domestic violence policies... get involved..!

and in short understand wtf your talking about...

CUZ THIS SHIT PISSES ME OFF!!!

(in with buddah... out with hitler)
(in with buddah... out with hitler)
(in with buddah... out with hitler)

why..?

cuz its bravado building bullshit...

ive pulled somone out of a situaion i knew was bad...
where were you..?
any of you..?
unwilling to directly confront it...
well i did...
now comes the silent treatment... eh..?

so pucker and smooch...

i gage those in my life on how they treat their freinds...
and what they let them get away with...

mine get away with very little...
and in return, i recieve the same...

its all about raising standards... and holding them...

so instead of rescuing damsels in distress, maybe we should be insuring those within our community arnt putting them at risk...
talk to our 'freinds' and neibors and confront problems when they become apparent... instead of tiptoeing around them...

and maybe just maybe offering support to those who do

ps. just cuz im the most liberal fuck youll ever meet, dont mean i
cater to the worst in people... i expect honor courage and
commitment to those things we all know are sacred :/

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Post by DerGolgo » Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:51 pm

Okay, for starters, dear schimschone: In my first post to this thread, what I complained about was:
1) That you make preemptive conclusions about people.
2) That you chose to mock a person in a personal crisis.
Wether or not it is her own fault that she is in the crisis she is in now I did not go into.
Neither did I go into wether she deserves any help - she needs it and must be given it, no matter wether she deserves it or not (This attitude you now may deride at your leasure.)
IMHO, the blaming comes AFTER finding a solution - otherwise, it would only serve to complicate matters further.

And wether or not you are good at making preemptive conclusions has nothing to do with the fact that this makes you....well....a self-righteous ignorant who likes to ride high on the horse of subjectively experienced superiority because his own ego is either underdeveloped (so compensation is needed) or over-inflated from either overcompensation or other mental/social problems. People who claim to be able to have everybody else figured out before getting to know them are about as shallow as it gets.

Also, I am quite aware of problems such as domestic abuse and child molestation - they make me angry, enraged, bloody pissed off.
Now, why would you think the pure mention of such statistics would make me feel uncomfortable? Probably because you have preemptively decided upon me being ignorant. Well, I am not (I collect signatures for terre-des-hommes effort to stop government inaction about child-trafficking, so don't call me inactive about the issue of child abuse, either). But, I forget, you are ever so good at preemptively judging people, how exactly did I misunderstand your self-righteous rantings?

And please, don't think you are the most liberal person I for one am ever going to meet.....you have NO friggin clue about the people I hang out with. Of course, that is supposing you mean liberal in the modern, North-American vernacular rather than the actual meaning of the word which describes no-holds barred Adam Smith style capitalism. If you mean the latter then, well, you just might be what you claim.

P.S.: For the sake of clarity, could you try to form complete sentences in the future? It makes things ever so much easier.
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Post by Ban Guzzi » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:48 pm

schimschone: hows the bike? better?
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Post by schimschone » Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:05 am

:x

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NO PAAAAAAARTS..! NO PAAAAAAARTS..!
OTHER BIKE IN YOUR GARAGE..! NEED TIRES..!
PAAAAAPER LATE..!
DEGALGO MAKE FUN OF HULKS SENTENCES..!
HE SO MUCH SMARTER THAN HULK WITH HIS MORE COLORFULE GERMAN FLAG THAT MAKE HULK ANGERYER... ARGGGGGGGH

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Post by DerGolgo » Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:49 am

Just to get back to the original issue of the thread:
Spidergirl, did ya find a place to crash / new place to live?
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Post by lifeon2 » Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:51 am

You know I think I have said it before but I remember a time when someone here needed help everyone pitched in and helped out but that seems to be kind of fading out a bit. The bad part about this is I havent been here that long. What we have here is someone that needs a hand. No problem when someone needs a hand you either give it or you dont, its up to you. No one here as far as I know knows enough of the details of her situation to make a judgement call on the why of it. However schim, who I know, has done just that, I think thats kinda fucked up. You dont know so dont judge especially on the kid thing. Schim as you are aware I have given you a hand when you needed it and lets face it was a trivial kind of need but it helped save a few bucks. What spidergirl is going through isnt trivial and who knows might be here fault could be uncontrolable circumstances. If you dont beleive that there are uncontrolable circumstances then you have led a life much less hard than most. Consider yourself blessed if this is the case.

I also know spidergirl, only as a passing aquaintance but she has always been pleasent to speak with and ready with a hug for those that she knows even as casually as me. So even though I dont have a solution for her problem temporary or otherwise I'm going to toss a 10 too thumpers idea because its not a bad one. Did I mention that he wouldnt know her if she walked up and bit him on the face? Thats how the group used to be.

Whether or not her posts are in the appropriate section, well I figure if the moderators found it innappropriate then they would pull it or move it to where they thought it belonged.

As long winded as this has been for me I guess what I'm trying to say is opinions are like assholes but there are times when its not appropriate to hear from either. After all if your looking to kick someone when they're down I guess its easier to pick someone who cant kick back. Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion and to express it whenever you like but sometimes part of being a decent human being is knowing when to shut the fuck up.

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Post by Abadon357 » Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:43 pm

i think everyone here needs to be keenly aware that sooner or later we have all needed or will need a hand ....and since everyswinging dick alive is already judging all of us the judgement calls should be stifled ...if you are of a mind to help then help if not then dont ...the editorial comments just cause dissent amoung US,who need dearly to be of one accord cause people liuke us are rapidly disappearing ....ive been in the scoot life ALL of my life and its been many a year since i found a group like this ...we need to hang together and QUIT judging each other ,if you dont like whats going on then dont be a part of it ...just quit judging ,cause one day it just might be you ,or me,and then you are going to want help not judgement .....
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Post by badi » Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:11 pm

goose wrote:When helping someone who is drowning you extend a pole or throw them a rope in an effort to pull them to shore, slowly..... jump into the pool with them and they will continue to flail and painc which will more likely result in pulling you down beneath the surface so as to stand on your shoulders and reach the surface. Often neither benefits from such "heroism".
Or you can do like me, get a friggin lifesaver-swimmer certificate and actually jump into the water, use your skills and rescue that person without getting yourself into some danger. You know, sometimes drowning people are just to engaged in the drowning business so they won't have time to grab for a pole or a rope. Also there's the secret trick, the last resource how to calm down panicking drowners, only known to lifesavers, so this stays between you and me, okay? Just knock that sucker unconscious!
Or you can do like shimschone, stand at the side of the pool and bitch about how stupid this particular drowning fellow was to fall into the pool in the first place and therefore doesn't deserve your help :x

I'm very sorry that I'm not able to help at all so I shall leave this thread to the more competent people.
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Post by Abadon357 » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:34 pm

right on Badi
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Post by schimschone » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:40 pm

i dont have to get wet all the time...
sometimes people need too be told how deep the water is...

"hey stupid... stand up..."

what im sayin is that it seems like your gettin more from helpin,
than the girl will be getin from the help...

but who am i to stand in the way of a k-nigit and his d-amsel...

let me know when you get your spurs.

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Re: help

Post by DerGolgo » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:51 pm

Abadon357 wrote:right on Badi
Seconded.
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Post by lifeon2 » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:59 pm

hypocrasy reigns course this part may be better discussed elsewhere
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Post by DerGolgo » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:03 pm

lifeon2 wrote:hypocrasy reigns
??
If there were absolutely anything to be afraid of, don't you think I would have worn pants?

I said I have a big stick.

lifeon2
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Post by lifeon2 » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:16 pm

not directed at you derG just one of those decent human being things, some discussions are better kept between two people
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im bored with it...

Post by schimschone » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:40 pm

this will be my last retort...
and in ryen style ill make shure to seal it well...

you gonna ask me to join you in your bedroom for the selfless help?

call me when my parts come in...
ill get them and my wit out of your hair for good.

out

-schimschone

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Post by spidergirl1nonly » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:19 pm

Hello people, I have been running around for a while trying to be pro-active.
First off, though, I want to give a huge 'Thanks!' and lots of hugs to those who have helped me through this little mishap that I have encountered. Thank you so much to Abadon, Rick, Thumper, Vance, Goose and anyone else that contributed to the gift that I received today. (Anyone that I forgot, let me know). The people that have given so selflessly of their time and other resources; you will all be remembered.

I have read the thread, and I do appreciate those of you that have had a tender heart and come to my defense while I have not been around. I will not bite onto this beast any further, and just accept what fate has bestowed me and move on.

To all those that show(ed) concern, I appreciate you greatly and know that good things will come your way! What comes around goes around. You are the people that keep me motivated to ensure that things like this do not happen in my life ever again! Thank you all once again!

I will send up an update when I have more news, just so that the lot that has helped me will know that their kindness has been put to good use! Thanks again, my fine UTMC friends! And a merry holiday to you all!

There's a lot to be said for compassion. The universe does not let kind acts such as these go unrewarded; remember that!

-Charlotte

P.S. Xandria says thanks too!

***edit:
As of today, I have sought and obtained employment and I have also looked at a few different places to live. Thanks for all the support guys and gals!!
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Don't look now but there's another rocky road..
But 2day I'm gonna face it, yeah, cuz I'm sick of dealin' any other way
Nobody said the race was fair but I'm gonna keep runnin' just the same!
2day, 2day is the first day of the rest of my life!

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Post by Beemer Dan » Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:40 pm

Ok, I've been on hell holiday the last few weeks and haven't been on much. What the fuck is going on here? I'm reading people that I trust and respect flipping out about something that shouldn't even affect them if they do not choose. Fucking get over yourselves and figure out what kind of impact any of this really has on your life.

Spygirl1 has some problems, that sucks. Some of you want to help her out, that's very kind. Some of you want to condemn her for having problems, fine in abstract, a bit screwed up when it's personal. I agree that she's a drama queen, but some people here like her. So even if you don't like her please think of your friends when spouting the venom. It will only make you look like an asshole and won't change her or her life.

To be blunt about it:

spidergirl1nonly - bring more to this message board than drama queen shit, emotional crap and requests for favors. Don't be a drain on this group, we don't need it. I have yet to read a post from you that isn't about your needs or some fucked up whining about your life. Please don't take this personally, as I have not met you and you might be a great person; but you haven't shown it here. Personally, I would prefer people don't use this message board as a place to try and solve all of their personal problems. every now and then it's fine, but on a regular basis it irritates people. So don't fucking do it constantly, that's why you have friends in the real world. Again, not a personal attack on you, just calling it as I see it.

schimschone- I thought you were a pretty cool guy when I met you, well spoken, well read and fun to hang out with. So you're a bit judgmental, I can live with that fine, but you might piss of other people as you've seen. I'm not going to make any rules about what people can post on this board, and I don't think BlackJoe is either. But use a bit of tact. You could have said what you wanted to without alienating so many around you. I have the same problem sometimes, but it's amazing how far an apology can go to fixing things, no need to apologize for your opinion, just apologize for being an ass when you delivered it.

LifeOn2- there are no fucking moderators here! Well, over in the politics section there's Brothah Ames ;-) I don't think anyone condemns you for trying to help out a friend, but know that anyone who comes around asking for help as much as spidergirl1nonly is going to piss people off sooner or later. I am glad that you are there for people when they need help, it's a good trait in a person and it's a lot more rare than most folx think.

And if anybody thinks BanGuzzi is an asshole for being straight up, he takes the ugly truths about life as well as he gives him, so don't go thinking he's an asshole. We've all had our bad days, and it's just as important to have someone like BanGuzzi or Schimschone around to tell you why you're fucking up and what you need to do to fix it as it is to have people like Badi, Goose and LifeOn2 that will actually help you out.

So enough of this shit, no more emails to me saying "you don't want to be affiliated with this organization", we are not a fucking organization. Do whatever you fucking see fit but figure it out and stop shitting on each other or I'll fly my gimpy ass back to Denvah and start beating fools with my cane.
They swore it was the correct one, but swearing doesn't make a sprocket fit where it doesn't want to. --WeAintFoundShit

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