here's something everybody should watch

SidVicious · Post by **SidVicious** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:43 pm

I got this sent to me via email tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IacEfYr9xNk

discuss.

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:25 pm

leftlaneguy · Post by **leftlaneguy** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:58 am

guitargeek wrote:Already covered this...

Sorry, but I don't see the relevance to the video posted...

As far as what James David Manning says in that vid, it's about time somone, ANYONE speaks the tryth about that subject. PC-ism in this country is WAY OUT OF HAND. That is the main reason 'racism' seems so bad, even 'worse' than prior history... If people stopped walking on egg-shells, it would take the bite out of it, and I believe most of it would go away...

But what do I know, I'm The White Devil....

GOSTAZ · Post by **GOSTAZ** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:16 am

It is too bad we cannot treat each other with basic respect and dignity. The minefield of political correctness has made this difficult, and I think it just makes hate masquerade in different clothes. As far as politically correct? I just gave up identifying people by anything other than name.

Injustice? Yes, it has happened. The remedy? I don't know how to erase scars of the past.

If having an open mind and a respectful nature would sell in the press, we might have a chance, but I fear we have become a nation of tattletales and scalawags... Look at our leadership.

A wise plumber once told me that the basics plumbing applies to life:

Shit flows downhill. So does milk and honey. Know what is in your pipe. Responsible living dictates you may one day have to clean the pipes.

the_shy_ember · Post by **the_shy_ember** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:02 am

All I wish is that they'd tip me when I deliver pizza to them.

Rabbit_Fighter · Post by **Rabbit_Fighter** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:44 am

Does this guy actually say anything constructive or of substance?

A bunch of frustrated ranting is all it sounds like to me. I'm sure there is plenty of thoughtful discourse on the subject, but it ain't coming from this dude.

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:41 am

leftlaneguy wrote:
guitargeek wrote:Already covered this...

Sorry, but I don't see the relevance to the video posted...

Really?

Did you read the post?

guitargeek wrote:I LIKE faggots, dykes, hebes, spics, niggers, kikes, wops, wogs, nips, chinks, krauts, slopes, frogs, blanket asses, zipperheads, roundeyes, micks, crackers, beaners, pakkies, white trash, ragheads, gooks, dagos, honkies, spooks, limeys, wetbacks, gubbas, breeders, kaffirs, peckerwoods, jungle bunnies, cheese heads, darkies, taffies, wagon burners, hose heads, gaijin, taigs, okies, tokies, yokels, camel jockeys, goyim, gut eaters, curry munchers, ivans, buffies, bohunks, jocks, yankees, polacks, bog trotters, geeks, nerds, dweebs, treehuggers, gringos, snowbacks, jook sing, haole, oreos, apples, twinkies, wiggers, chiggers, backsliders, burnouts, jack mormons, mackerel snappers, and even some bible thumping holy rollers.

My point here is that I don't judge people based on the color of skin they happened to have been born with. I base my opinion of a person on their actions and the opinions they express.

I agree with the preacher in the video insofar as there is a lot of racial tension in our society, and that we should all have a meaningful dialog regarding race relations.

SidVicious · Post by **SidVicious** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:11 pm

It's interesting to say the least.

Coincidentally, just last night I watched a new (to me) movie called Crash, which deals with racism and other social issues. I found it to pretty be fairly gripping. Recommended.

leftlaneguy · Post by **leftlaneguy** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:49 pm

guitargeek wrote:
leftlaneguy wrote:
guitargeek wrote:Already covered this...

Sorry, but I don't see the relevance to the video posted...
Really?

Did you read the post?

guitargeek wrote:I LIKE faggots, dykes, hebes, spics, niggers, kikes, wops, wogs, nips, chinks, krauts, slopes, frogs, blanket asses, zipperheads, roundeyes, micks, crackers, beaners, pakkies, white trash, ragheads, gooks, dagos, honkies, spooks, limeys, wetbacks, gubbas, breeders, kaffirs, peckerwoods, jungle bunnies, cheese heads, darkies, taffies, wagon burners, hose heads, gaijin, taigs, okies, tokies, yokels, camel jockeys, goyim, gut eaters, curry munchers, ivans, buffies, bohunks, jocks, yankees, polacks, bog trotters, geeks, nerds, dweebs, treehuggers, gringos, snowbacks, jook sing, haole, oreos, apples, twinkies, wiggers, chiggers, backsliders, burnouts, jack mormons, mackerel snappers, and even some bible thumping holy rollers.
My point here is that I don't judge people based on the color of skin they happened to have been born with. I base my opinion of a person on their actions and the opinions they express.

I agree with the preacher in the video insofar as there is a lot of racial tension in our society, and that we should all have a meaningful dialog regarding race relations.

Okay, I see what you're saying, but all you covered was name-calling... Doesn't really have all that much to do with the topic of which he was speaking. The name-calling is just a symptom of a greater problem. The preacher was talking about trying to eliminate the attitude and mis-perceptions that PC-ism brings about..

Oh, and I'm sorry that somebody got thier frilly-man-panties all in a wad over somebody else saying the word "gay"... Fuckin' pansies is all you are, if a *word* can get all in your face... Grow another layer of skin, and think REAL HARD about why a *WORD* spoken in/out of context 'hurts' *YOU* so much....

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:39 pm

Perhaps I'm a bit naive, but I've long been of the opinion that one of the most destructive things we have in our society is the hyphen. The very divisiveness and false separations created by such words as African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, etc... only goes to create false differences. One is, simply, an American. All of those other things imply a connection with culture and custom that is, quite frankly, usually lost after the third generation.
Similarly on applications that ask for my race I prefer to check the box for "Other" then write in "Human."
Racial divisions are fostered in this country. Let's focus on one of the worst culprits and do away with the hyphen.

Oh great, I can see it now, "You know Ames."
"Yeah, why?"
"Dude's an anti-hyphenate! I say we go kick his ass!"

leftlaneguy · Post by **leftlaneguy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:18 am

Ames wrote:Perhaps I'm a bit naive, but I've long been of the opinion that one of the most destructive things we have in our society is the hyphen. The very divisiveness and false separations created by such words as African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, etc... only goes to create false differences. One is, simply, an American. All of those other things imply a connection with culture and custom that is, quite frankly, usually lost after the third generation.
Similarly on applications that ask for my race I prefer to check the box for "Other" then write in "Human."
Racial divisions are fostered in this country. Let's focus on one of the worst culprits and do away with the hyphen.

Oh great, I can see it now, "You know Ames."
"Yeah, why?"
"Dude's an anti-hyphenate! I say we go kick his ass!"

+100

YES! Whatever happened to just plain old "AMERICAN"????

Oh, wait... everything's got to be labeled.. EVERYTHING.

Fucktards...

piccini9 · Post by **piccini9** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:35 am

I'm not a fucktard.

SomeMook · Post by **SomeMook** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:32 am

piccini9 wrote:I'm not a fucktard.

But aren't all CB riders fucktards? Or is it dickwads?

leftlaneguy · Post by **leftlaneguy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:49 am

CB riders are fucktards...
KZ riders are assholes...

BMW riders are... well, BMW riders....

monstergirl · Post by **monstergirl** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:28 am

Ames wrote:Similarly on applications that ask for my race I prefer to check the box for "Other" then write in "Human."
Racial divisions are fostered in this country. Let's focus on one of the worst culprits and do away with the hyphen.

Oh great, I can see it now, "You know Ames."
"Yeah, why?"
"Dude's an anti-hyphenate! I say we go kick his ass!"

That's a great idea Ames. I think I'll do that next time I have to fill one of those out.

Personally, I always find it interesting when people of mixed races denies one race.

I've always wondered if, in the VERY far future, all races will just become so diluted with other races that everyone will sort of just be no race at all, just HUMAN.

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:09 pm

RevCBL wrote:
Ames wrote:Perhaps I'm a bit naive, but I've long been of the opinion that one of the most destructive things we have in our society is the hyphen.
Anyone care to lay odds that this has something to do with the early "Bat-Man" comics becoming "Batman"?

On occasion I like to diversify.

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:47 pm

Sadly, even after everyone has become one even shade of tan, people will still find some excuse for war and intolerance...

sun rat · Post by **sun rat** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:45 pm

what i want to know is why group A thinks it has the right to TELL group B whether or not they should be offended at what group A says.

12ci · Post by **12ci** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:08 pm

Ames wrote:The very divisiveness and false separations created by such words as African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, etc... only goes to create false differences. One is, simply, an American.

so, are you channelling teddy roosevelt now ?

piccini9 · Post by **piccini9** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:18 pm

leftlaneguy wrote:CB riders are fucktards...
KZ riders are assholes...

BMW riders are... well, BMW riders....

My mistake, I am a fucktard.

So are these guys.

piccini9 · Post by **piccini9** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:20 pm

Ya know, I keep telling myself I'm not a geek but then I go and do shit like that.
Jeez.................

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:43 am

One of us! One of us! One of us! One of us!...

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:45 am

12ci wrote:
Ames wrote:The very divisiveness and false separations created by such words as African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, etc... only goes to create false differences. One is, simply, an American.

so, are you channelling teddy roosevelt now ?

God Damn that's scary! I honestly don't ever recall having read that before, but it certainly does help solidify my respect and admiration for Teddy!

Sisyphus · Post by **Sisyphus** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:48 pm

Who fucking cares? People are different. Fact. Deal.

Rabbit_Fighter · Post by **Rabbit_Fighter** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:54 pm

Ames wrote:
12ci wrote:
Ames wrote:The very divisiveness and false separations created by such words as African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, etc... only goes to create false differences. One is, simply, an American.

so, are you channelling teddy roosevelt now ?
God Damn that's scary! I honestly don't ever recall having read that before, but it certainly does help solidify my respect and admiration for Teddy!

Opposite impact for me. I'm totally down with hyphens. While we are all "Americans", there is no shortage of subcultures with very different cultural traditions, etc. Likewise, I have no problem with anybody who shares their allegiance with another land. Besides, it isn't a matter of what people call themselves, it is what they are perceived to be. During WWII, I don't think anybody went around asking Americans of Japanese descent to choose whether or not they identified with the hyphen . . . . they were different, so they went to camps.

Teddy said that shit at a time when industrialized nation states where throwing their young men into the firing lines over a lot of stupid bullshit; and only sentimental patriotism and naivitee kept men running into the guns.

I sat behind a guy at a traffic light the other day with a bumper sticker that said, "WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH!?!?!" Guess why, Fucktard . . . . because people can speak whatever the fuck they want in this country and businesses have a right to speak to them however the hell they want! I realize than English has been the predominant language of this land for 10,000 years and all, but . . . oh wait a minute . . . Washington only been a state for 120 years. Nevermind. We took big chunks of this country by war and by purchase that were speaking Spanish and French (not to mention the hundreds of indigenous tongues), before and after they got obsorbed into our country. Huge numbers of people through the midwest spoke German until WWI when Teddy made that speach, and tons of people started changing their names and forcing their kids to speak English.

So now, some unarticulate preacher says, GO KNOCK CHIPS OFF THEIR SHOULDERS and speak the truth? I'm all for personal responsibility and shit, but I think blaming the high rates of crime among blacks on blacks, makes as much sense as blaming it on whites. If problems were that simple, we could just fix them.

It just occurred to me, that I am probably being about as articulate as this preacher that annoyed me. Teddy Roosevelt, I am not.

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:35 pm

So I guess that makes me an Asshole-American?

Okay, I can live with that...

monstergirl · Post by **monstergirl** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:36 pm

Here is someone else's opinion:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living ... morton.cnn

piccini9 · Post by **piccini9** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:06 pm

guitargeek wrote:So I guess that makes me an Asshole-American?

Okay, I can live with that...

Well, you do ride a KZ.

Caliann · Post by **Caliann** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:25 am

Every time I hear someone go off on a tangent about how they have to press 1 for English, how immigrants should dang well learn English before they move here, how [insert nationality here] is taking over our country, and soon no one will speak English, et.c, etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum, it just makes me want to smile at them and say:

"Mikola, mitakuye oyasin."

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:29 am

For what it's worth, I have never, ever had to press 1 for English. I've gotten menus with a little blurb in Spanish saying the caller should press some number to hear the menu in Spanish, but never to press any button for English.

And this was when I lived in Texas.

Just so we're all clear on this... America does not have an official language any more than it has an official religion.

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here's something everybody should watch

here's something everybody should watch