motorpsycho67 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:26 pm
I find your response more than a little bit ignorant.
Politics rarely fit into a nice little box you can ignore.
Politics are VERY much a part of this crisis we are all experiencing.
Nor do politics fit into a nice little box you can hit other people over the head with. Which is why I requested that everybody refrain from attacking a political label, and criticize behaviors, instead.
Just based on what we've seen here, over the years, a lot of people will have a different definition of "conservative". For a lot of people,
conservative will mean "well, me, obviously!". Some of these people will look at goons in MAGA hats, congressmen with lobbyist cash pouring out of every orifice, and bigoted bible thumpers, and they will see "well, not really conservatives".
But when you mean to attack the latter groups, by attacking the label conservative, these self-declared obvious conservatives will feel attacked.
Why? Because nobody gives a shit about what you mean. Often won't even give a shit about what you say. Just as you aren't giving a shit about what I said.
I specifically invited anyone who wishes to criticize what people do, their behavior, to have at it. And anyone who wishes to disagree to do the same.
Wrapping us, or the people we perceive as our opponents, into a neat little political label is tribalism, is to divide us even along lines where we don't have to.
Yes, politics are very much a part of this crisis. Because of what politics make people
do, or because politics are what people use to rationalize what they are doing anyways.
Political labels, meanwhile, pretty much universally, come with so many different definitions, they rarely encompass
only the deeds or groups someone wishes to attack.
Most of the time, sorting out what everybody is talking about, having a spirited discussion, is an option.
Right now, everybody is already walking on a bloody knife's edge. Your "brutally honest" bit right now is well suitable to drive people away, while nobody has the mental bandwidth to sort out in their mind why your unspoken definition of conservative can only be the correct definition of conservative, and the definition they themselves have been using their entire life must obviously be wrong, because ms67 must have taken into account what they think when he rails against conservatives.
If people in MAGA hats, bible thumpers, gun-nuts, or free traders piss you off. Say it. Say "people in MAGA hats piss me off", etc.
If the Apparatchiks of the Republican Party, or McConnel's Creatures of Congress are who you hate, actually mention them. Some people might still take offense, since they vote republican and cannot live in a world that won't validate their every decision.
But even they would only defend against condemnation of
what they did.
Not against condemnation of
who they are.
If there were absolutely anything to be afraid of, don't you think I would have worn pants?
I said I have a big stick.